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Fox News Alert: Captured U.S. Soldiers Should Be Killed, Because They Suck

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We’re not getting dumber.”  This is what I say to myself late at night when the demons come, when I’m facing down the dark night of the soul that Fitzgerald spoke of; when my thoughts creepy-crawl towards the eternity that Blake described.  “…We’re not getting dumber,” I say to myself.  “It’s just that cable TV has twenty-four hours of programming to fill.”  MSNBC, CNN, Fox News — all of them; all of the unending “news” shows.  All of them, with all the constant talky-talk-talking.

And what is there to talk about? Nothing. It’s the middle of the summer. What is there to talk about? The Jonas Brothers?  Transformers 2?  Health Care, Part MCXXVI? Obama’s ugly jeansThe horrible new sitcom starring Padma Lakshmi?  …No.  Nothing.  There’s nothing.  We should all be relaxing and chilling by the pool.  But instead we just keep at it, with the endless blah blah blah, like the morons that we are.

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And so, this is what I tell myself:  Human beings, as a whole, are just as stupid and incoherent as they’ve always been — but now that stupidity is being recorded on live TV at a greater rate than ever before.  We’re not getting dumber; we’ve just got more airtime.

…Which brings us to the topic of Fox News.  Yesterday, while discussing the topic of the U.S. solider in Afghanistan who has been captured by the Taliban, Fox had on its senior “Military Expert,” Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, so that Lt. Col. Peters could share his wise, wise, wise wise wise views on the whole issue.  And here’s a picture of the man himself.

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For the record, Ralph Peters has never seen combat; has never been anywhere close to combat.  His “military service” consists of a stint in Germany during the mid-1980s, where he no doubt faced down the twin evils of disgusting sausages and horrible Euro-Pop.  After which, he worked for U.S. Intelligence, and wrote shitty spy novels with titles like “Flames of Heaven” and “Traitor,” while all the time never being within a thousand miles of an actual gun going off.  Then he got hired by Fox.  Which pretty much brings us up to date.

So of course, when a U.S. solider left his base and then got captured by the Taliban, Fox News brought Lt.  Col. Peters on to speak.  Peters started out fine, first saying, “I want to stress first of all that we must wait until all of the facts are in until we make a final judgment.”  Good point, Mr. Peters!  Because we don’t yet know how the solider got captured, why he left the base, or what really happened, or anything.  After making his wise call to avoid a rush to judgment, Peters then waited approximately 0.5 seconds before rushing to judgment, calling the captured solider a “liar” and a “deserter.”

Peters then continued—

I want to be clear.  If, when the facts are in, we find out that through some convoluted chain of events, he really was captured by the Taliban, I’m with him.  But, if he walked away from his post and his buddies in wartime, I don’t care how hard it sounds, as far as I’m concerned, the Taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles and legal bills.

Yeah.  Got that?  U.S. soldiers who leave their base and get captured should be killed by the Taliban, because those soldiers suck, and because Ralph Peters really really knows what he’s talking about.

Here’s the entire amazing video.  (Note the increasingly panicked attempts by the Fox News hostess stewardess journalist to cut Peters off, because calling for the death of U.S. soldiers on live TV is probably bad for ratings.)

So.  Wow.  That’s just great. But hey, yeah!  Let’s all listen to Ralph Peters. Because he really knows what he’s talking about. And he’s been right about so many things before.  For instance…

—Peters was a strong supporter of the 2003 invasion of and ongoing war in Iraq. Defending the war from critics who claimed that Iraq was descending into Civil War, he authored a March 5, 2006 piece in the “New York Post” entitled “Dude, Where’s My Civil War?”, in which he wrote: “I’m looking for the Civil War that ‘The New York Times’ declared. And I just can’t find it.”

—By August 2006, Peters had turned more pessimistic on Iraq, stating in an interview with “Front Page Magazine”:  “Civil War is closer than it was…  The leaders squabble, the death squads rule the neighborhoods.”

—On November 2, 2006, he wrote in “USA Today”:

Iraq is failing.  No honest observer can conclude otherwise. Even six months ago, there was hope.  Now the chances for a democratic, unified Iraq are dwindling fast.  …Iraq could have turned out differently.  It didn’t. And we must be honest about it.  We owe that much to our troops.  They don’t face the mere forfeiture of a few congressional seats but the loss of their lives.  Our military is now being employed for political purposes.  It’s unworthy of our nation.”

Oh, Mr. Peters!  You military expert, you!  Thank god that you provide a steady hand on the till, and aren’t just panicking or talking out of your ass or anything.  It’s not like you went from saying that everything was awesome in Iraq, to saying that okay, things might be going bad in Iraq, to saying “Oh, shit, people!  It’s all over!!” — in under seven months.  ….Except — okay, irony fails me here — that’s exactly what you did, you fucking moron.

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But of course, all of that is standard Republican “being wrong about every fucking thing under the sun” boilerplate.  No, where Mr. Peters really stands out is in his deviation from the norm.  You see, your standard Neocon just never changes his mind about anything, no matter what, ever:  thereby giving himself a 3% chance of being randomly right about something once every year or so.  But where Mr. Peters innovates is in constantly changing his mind about shit.  For example, the one thing that went sort of okay in Iraq was the troop surge.  Most Neocons supported it.  Ralph Peters chose that moment to change his mind again, three times, thereby making him wrong about the one thing he actually had a chance to be right about:

—Peters was opposed to what became the Iraq War troop surge of 2007 when it was first proposed.  In October 2006 he wrote, “The notion of sending more U.S. troops is strategic and practical nonsense.”

But then…

—By July 2007, he had changed his mind, writing that U.S. troops were making “serious progress against al-Qaeda-in-Iraq and other extremists.”

And then…

—In January 2008 Peters wrote:

“Determined to elect a Democrat president, the ‘mainstream’ media simply won’t accept our success…  And the would-be candidates themselves continue to insist that we should abandon Iraq immediately. …These are the pols who insisted that the surge didn’t have a chance. And nobody calls ‘em on it.”

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Oh, Mr. Peters!  You crazy rascal, you!  Has any “expert” ever been wrong about more things than you have?  But then, what should we expect from a military expert who’s never seen combat, and who writes for the hilariously-named “Armchair General Magazine”?

…So you’ll forgive me, Mr. Peters, if I don’t immediately rush forward to support you in your bold call for killing captured American soldiers.  …But fret not, Mr. Peters!  You haven’t always been wrong:

In a 2009 article for The Journal of International Security Affairs…  Peters advocated the ruthless use of United States military power.  ….Peters also raised the controversial possibility of directing the United States military to attack journalists.  Peters wrote, “Although it seems unthinkable now, future wars may require censorship, news blackouts and, ultimately, military attacks on the partisan media.”

…Now, Mr. Peters.  I’m no expert like yourself.  And I don’t wish to “rush to judgment.”  But I would like to agree with you that military attacks against the partisan media might actually be a good idea.  To simplify:  I think the U.S. Army should bomb the fuck out of you.  …Is there anything you’d like to say to that?

(Photos from TV Ark and Right Truth)
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  • Mason Lerner

    In the future, people will only be able to process thoughts that have 140 characters or less.

  • Cadavre

    Peterson – wasn’t his brother tried for murdering his wife after it was learned that while in the Army he had been involved in a very similar stair case death and was a closet case using his vocation as an author to pick up Jeff Gannon Marines!

    Anyway – this guy sticks out because I remember a C-SPAN caller making him squirm real bad on “Book Notes”. If you want to see this worm stripped of his false dignity and squirming like he is on a hook dangling in front of a really big scary toothy fish, go here:
    http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=280144-1&showVid=true

    On the right side of the page in the “Flash” search, enter HOUSTON, and enjoy a worm pretending to be a bull squirm for cover.

  • liberty

    Are praying for this soldier and his family.Concerns about the soldier will be cleared up soon.Yes we should hold our tongue on such issues,but i think soldier was awol-he is no hero!!

  • Mason Lerner

    Let me perhaps spell this our for those that don’t understand: It doesn’t matter if he went AWOL or not. He is an American citizen who is now hostage. We owe him the same effort and compassion that any of us would hope for if it were us or one of our loved ones in his position, no matter how he got there. If he went AWOL, that is what due process and such is for. Or is due process too 90′s? As far as all the people judging this soldier, we don’t have a lot of facts. As sweet as I’m sure the party scene is in Kabul, I doubt this soldier ran out on his unit to go paint the town red. Who knows what he has been through up until now? Who knows how much blood he has sacrificed up until now? If it doesn’t break your heart to see a young man like that held hostage, you need to take a good, hard look at yourself.
    I tried to find the “In the Line of Fire” reference, but than I realized I was confusing it with “Enemy at the Gates”, and I quit.

  • bobthegrape

    Light colonel Ralph Peters, what a soldier. Wouldn’t you want him leading you into combat? Sure, I knew you would. Peters would lead from the command bunker, he would be as far away from the fighting as he could get. What a pussy. Hey, Peters, I challange you to a duel, yes a duel, with duelling pistols. Whadda ya say??

  • Yellow Belly

    Ralph Pters also directly called for military hits on bloggers, reporters and dissenters. He should be the first locked up under the new hate speeech law, but as we know- that will be reserved primarily for those opposing Israel’s imperial agenda.

  • Dick Hertz

    lots of piles of shit like this in the military, in the officer corps, or ‘corpse’ as it ought to be called, as they are so dead between the ears. not a surprise that this desk jockey has harsh words for a real soldier. I suggest Peters go in there, mano a mano, and singlehandedly defeat the taliban, find a cure for beri-beri and fallen arches, and save the world from ‘mini ME’ all in one fell swoop. and of course, rescue the soldier.

    this ought to tell american’s the shitty calibre of military leader we have running things in the foreign theatres of war. this Peters guy is just exactly like the commissioned assholes I had to work for, who were for the most part, totally inept and ‘incompetent’ or had no clue what the fuck they were doing. this poor turd shouldn’t even be allowed to speak for the military with his desk jockey record. what a HERO peters is….

  • maggie

    I vote that we put a gun in Ralph Peter’s hands and send him off to fight with the soldiers. Oh don’t give him a flak jacket or anything special, our troops didn’t get them, nor do they get the proper equipment. I vote that the helmet goes to another soldier, because Peters has no brains to protect.

  • Justin Thought

    Hey, this poor guy might be wrong once in a while (never more than 100% of the time, I’m certain), but you have to remember, he’s where he is because he knows how to say “Yes, sir!” and “Yes, sir!” and “I will, sir!” Those don’t require you to have any knowledge, just the proper programming.

    You’d ought to watch Kay Griggs’ interviews. Not cinematic masterpieces, but there’s a WHOLE lot of information in them.

    So this guy has to be one of the “Rising Stars.”

    LOL!

  • maggie

    OH, and tell Al-quaeda (arabic for the toilet) and the taliban exactly where to find this guy once we ship him over as a soldier. People like this often spout the trash they do simply because they know their lily-white asses will never see combat. Psychopaths find it VERY easy to sacrifice others for their own gain.

  • Jessica

    I could not agree more myself, well put.

  • http://none Rene

    He’s now a captured enemy combatant. According to cheney and Bush, he can now legally be stripped, waterboarded, forced into a coffin-sized box, threatened, beaten (as long as no organs are damaged), smashed against plywood, sleep deprived, and force-fed for any information he has. The jury’s still out on whether he can be paraded naked, smeared with fecies, have a bible pissed on, or analy raped.

    Most importantly, remember that americans have NO RIGHT to complain if any of this is done to him…after all, YOU set the legal precident that allowed it to be considered NORMAL to abuse prisioners!

  • nobodysaysBOO

    save money kill them at home!

  • maggie

    Why on earth would we deprive them of the fear and terror that they put our kids through? I want him to feel the same thing that he so easily sends others off to experience.

  • Juan Salinas

    Why does the name, “Douglas C. Neidermeyer” come to mind? Ah, yes, I remember.

  • Olive Mills

    Oliver Miller, you’re a fucking moron. End. “Nuff” said.

  • Ricah Marie

    YOU Sir or Madam, are an idiot! First of all, nice twist, who do you work for MSNBC???? He clearly states…that IF the soldier was a desserter …… You have twisted everything the man said and then you have the nerve to post the video. I guess most of your democRAT friends don't bother checking things out. People like you make me sick.

  • Fast Johnny

    Exactly!!! Get him home safe, that is the primary mission, and if there is enough supporting information hold an inquiry as to his conduct and how it jeapordized himself and his unit. Going AWOL is an offense that is punishable, but regardless of whether or not a soldier went AWOL, he or she is still an American soldier. Remember, Alvin York went AWOL, albeit domestically, and ended up getting the MOH and being an icon of what America and American soldiers were all about.

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