Sarah Palin Out to Destroy Levi Johnston in Her New Book “Going Rogue”

I understand that you’re not going to get into an elected office someday, or am I wrong? Perhaps you might enjoy the Kremlin? Oh, sorry, you’re supposed to be ‘liberal’.

Have you actually intend to buy the book?

By the way, Mary Magdalene was pregnant with Jesus’ child when he was crucified.

Oh, what’s the size of your penis?

The size of my penis? It’s as big as a baby Jesus’ arm!

That was an extremely confusing negative comment.

I think I was being accused of being a communist, which is totally ridiculous… comrade.

But… “By the way, Mary Magdalene was pregnant with Jesus’ child when he was crucified.” What’s that have to do with ANYTHING? And hey! Someone’s read “The Da Vinci Code.”

Thought Sarah Palin was stupid and irrelevant. And yet… it doesn’t seem like liberals can go a day without talking about her. How curious.

Just how the Hell would you know that?????????
NOBODY HAS READ THE BOOK YET!

“Quit making things up!”

Your entire article is offensive and disgusting! It is because of morons like you that this country is in the state that it is in! Sarah Palin is a briliant, attractive, conservative woman and she does nothing to deserve the hateful and disgusting things that have been said about her. People like you are so quick to mock Christianity, but what you choose to believe is the single most absurd piece of crap ever authored. I would much rather believe that the we were created by a loving creator who then sent his son to die on the cross for the worlds sins,(includin yours by the way) than believe that we evolved from some sort of organism, and some how got to where we are today purely by chance. The only reason that Christianity is such a problem for you left wing idiots is becuase you can not stand the thought that there is a higher authority outside of this world that will one day hold you accountable for everything that you have done. You would much rather live without any sense of morality completely comfortable in your belief that there is nothing after this life. This nation was established on Christian principles by people of very strong faith. They would be disgusted with how the constitution and this country has been distorted. We have come to a place where mocking Christianity is the norm and if anyone dares to take a stand based on their faith, like Sarah Palin, they are mocked, ridiculed, and made to look like a back woods hick without a brain. The truth is that Sarah Palin puts in very sharp contrast the empty meaningless life that you have chosen to live. You and the rest of the liberal nuts cannot stand seeing a woman who has not had to sacrifice family for career, who has not had to compromise on her faith in order to get ahead, and has not had an abortion even though having a baby caused her to make some personal sacrifices. I will pray for people like you. I will pray for our country. I hope that someday soon America will get back to the place where a woman like Sarah Palin will be celebrated and not mocked!

Branywyn, I think I love you…

I’m one of those crazy liberals who’s obsessed with Sarah Palin. I can’t stop writing about her or mentioning her on my web radio show. She’s just so… perfect for commentary.

I work in the porn industry, so conservative accusations that it’s her looks that rile me up don’t go very far. The longer Palin flaps her tattooed lips, the more work Lisa Ann gets…

Levi must have some serious dirt on Palin, cuz she’s investing a lot of high profile effort to discredit a 19-year-old boy who wound up dropping out of high school thanks, in part, to her whirlwind tour of the US and his command performance in the Palin Family Values Freak Show. Whether she likes it or not, he *is* the father of at least one toddler in her household and slamming him in print doesn’t seem the very best way to atone for the damage she’s already done to his future prospects or to provide a healthy environment for his child/ren to get to know their dad.

I can’t wait to get a 2nd hand copy of this mean girl hack job potboiler.

Johathon is painting with a very wide brush when he claims every liberal is not christian.Remember Jonathon people came over here for religious freedom not to be forced to have the same beliefs as everyone else.Our forefathers or at least some of them burned people at stakes because they thought wrongly that they were witches because of something someone said second hand about them.palin is brilliant get real she is no better than any other politician or any other mother that has to work and keep her family in line.palin has not ,one daughter has a child with no husband,not a big deal to me but still family values and all,2nd daughter was caught in pictures drinking on the streets of Alaska and a son that supposedly went into the service to avoid having to face charges being bought against him,is that a boys will be boys thing?So what you are saying you want to go back to the days when women had no vote ,where slavery was the norm,where women had no rights at all the men controlled everything.Think again brother.I believe in a higher power but not that the earth is only 6000 years old.That has been proven false.

Jonathon – “Your entire article is offensive and disgusting! It is because of morons like you that this country is in the state that it is in! Sarah Palin is a briliant….”

annnnd that’s where you lost me.

Darklady – Yes, personally I think the dialogue to “who’s Nailin’ Palin” is far more brilliant than anything I’ve ever heard come out of that idit’ mouth!

Hellian – You cannot reason with people like Jonathon, the only way of dealing with them is to ignore them…Unfortunately Obama has this burning need to be inclusive… I say if you think like a dinosaur, you need to be left behind.

I intend to buy this book along with Memoirs by FABIO and Tonya Harding’s new autobiography.
The perfect trinity of books to curl by the fire with and chomp on a SPAM sandwich.
Glory Be the holidays are upon us!

Come on Branwyn – surely you don’t need to do this. What is wrong with you?

Why are liberals so hateful? I thought the democratic party was “the party of tolerance”. Liberals are hate filled bigots.

Branwyn’s face looks like the crap my dog just took.

ClimmNz… I do need to do this, and don’t call me shirley!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSRmemHxlo

Oh boy.. you’ve opened up the Pandora’s Box for morons…

*making popcorn*

Sarah needs to keep in mind that the boy is the father of her grandchild.

Sarah needs to keep in mind the fact that the boy is the father of her grand son.

First – Its Jonath”A”n not Jonath”O”n. For some one who makes their living writing you really should spell check, but then again when all you write is “trash” like the article above I shouldnt expect too much.

Second – I would like everyone to notice that the learned liberal did not refute the facts of my posting. Instead he just dismissed me as a “Dinosaur”. (I’m 22 by the way, which makes me younger than you) Just like every other liberal you refuse to debate the facts of my posting because my facts are irrefutable. You say that I lost you after the first sentence … Well I think that that says a lot more about you and your attention span than it does about my posting. I guess my posting didn’t have enough lude humor for you, when your mind is full of garbage I’m sure it is hard to find room for anything else.

Now – in response to Hellian, who actually tried to make a somewhat intelligent argument – (Don’t feel bad you did a better job than the idiot that wrote the article, and he gets paid for this! Once again though, would it kill you spell check! Your posting would make a first grader cringe!) The Salem witch trials happened in the 1600′s over a hundred years before our constitution was written. Our founding fathers had nothing to do with them. I dont think you are stupid, just extremely misinformed. (However, if it is sites like this that you are getting your news from, I can see why!) As far as slavery goes, it was a Christian, Conservative, Republican that ended slavery – so if slavery is important to you, you may want to re-think your choice of political party.

Now – to what you said about Sarah Palins family. You must be really close to the family to have all this inside knowledge, because some of what you said has not been reported by any respectable news agency. (Once again, you should probably rethink your news sources!) There is a story in the Bible, where Jesus says “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her”. Whether you are a Christian or not, I dont think that you would want anyone going through your life and pointing out every mistake that you made along the way. Anyone close to Sarah Palin, besides the darling of the left, Levi Johnson, agree that Sarah Palin is a great mother and has done her best to raise her kids. You can attack someone on issues but when you take it to the personal level of insulting her children you have gone to far. I hope that you keep this in mind in the future … Would you want anyone talking about your children the way that people have talked about her children!

I think not!

A side note to all this – what proof do you have in regard to the age of the earth … I don’t mean to put in question everything you said, but seeing how wrong you were on everything else I think you could understand why I’m asking! so …..

Branwyn you have ugly poppy hooded eyes.

Hahaha – don’t call me Shirley! I like that kind of silly humour. All this everyone on the right is evil if you’re on the left, and everyone on the left is evil if you’re on the right. It’s so dumb. Sarah Palin is a good woman, Barak Obama is a good man. They both deserve to be criticized and questioned. And neither of them will be able to ever ‘rock the sandals” like Jesus. Read the bible. Read Sarah Palin’s book. Read Barak’s. Then write with knowledge – not prejudice or bias. With your obvious talent I’m sure you could do that and still be funny, clever, witty. I am loathe to believe this stuff about Sarah Palin and Levi. So much stuff has been written about her that has ended up being false.

A christian conservative ended slavery…uh..yeah. Granted Lincoln was indeed a christian, but if you’re trying to lump him in with the likes of your hero Palin and I’m sure Bush, Cheney, Limbaugh et.al. that’s simply laughable. Hello… he was the head of the UNION…I stopped reading your response after you placed “brilliant” and “palin” in the same sentence. I did this because, if you’re attempting to seriously claim that this woman has a mental acuity greater than that of a pickled herring, well, I just can’t abide… As for proof of the age of the earth, I suppose earth samples, ice samples, dinosaur bones, fossils, I suppose all of that stuff is just jesus testing you… well again, there you lose me, because I am a rational, adult human being, and I don’t believe in the little baby fairy tales… I know you love your mommy and daddy, and still hold tight to the values (shudder) and beliefs (double shudder) they’ve instilled into you, but you’re 22… time to get your head out of your ass.

Cliff – I can respect people based on their actions… politically speaking I haven’t seen anything coming from the right deserving of my respect.That doesn’t mean I have much more respect for the other side either… As far as non-politicians are concerned, I can agree to disagree, but politicians are public figures, and this is MY column, so I’m going to write what I want to write….about BOTH sides.

I’m a woman. I’m a Christian. I’m a conservative. And even I think Sarah Palin is a flippin’ nutjob.

I’ll continue to pray that ours will never be a country that “celebrates” a woman like Sarah Palin.

Won’t be buying this book. I prefer to keep all my brain cells intact. I agree with Darklady, though–Levi must have something REALLY good on this woman or she wouldn’t be so frantic to have us all believe he’s a money-grubbing moron. Not saying he isn’t … but he would have faded into obscurity soon enough, and reminding us all who he is can’t REALLY be helping her.

My comment re right and left was more about the kind of stuff I read generally, not about your column. (This is the first time I have read this column. ) I like Sarah Palin. I don’t necessarily agree with her position on everything but there is a lot about her I admire. I get that she polarises people, but that isn’t always a bad thing either. She sparks strong responses from people and I think there is a place for a politician like her. In New Zealand we have our left and right too, but nothing as interesting as American politics!

Of course you will write what you want! So you should. I’m glad you write about both sides.
And, I think it is admirable you allow all kind of feedback/comments and respond to them. Thank you.

P.S Get some sleep! You must be up late! It’s 7.37 pm (Sunday) here!

You sir, are an arrogant ass.

My proof that Sarah Palin, ” has a mental acuity greater than a pickled herring “, to qoute a retard that writes for an even more retarded article, is that she was a governor of a state! The most popular and successful governor in America prior to the election. If you really think that it does not take someone with a certain level of briliance to, not only run a state, but to run one of the few states in America that has a budget surplus, you really are a moron! ( Just in case you were wondering, the most prosperous states are ran by conservative governors. For example, Texas and Alaska. The states that are in the most economic turmoil are the liberal “experiments”, such as California and New York. I know that California has a Republican governor, but the damage to California had been done long before he took over and he is at best a moderate Republican and could easily pass for a Democrat!) If a retard could run a state, than you would be on the fast track to political success!

As far as my faith goes, you can mock and riducule as much as you like, it will not help fill the emptiness in your life. You are an arrogant ass, you will more than likely remain an arrogant ass until the day you die, and then I guess you will find out whether there is something after this life. ( Now, I know that you are a very serious journalist, but in case you missed it, your hero, Barrack Obama, is a …… Christian! I know this is a shock to your system, take a minute to breathe and process this information. I guess he must have his head up his ass as well. Finally something we can agree on!)

Now evolution … The definition of the word “Science” is, ” The total collection of knowledge based on mans observation of the physical world”.
Since no living being was around when this world was created, science of origins is not technically a “science” at all. In order to believe anything about how this world came about, requires that you have faith. I choose to put my faith in God, you choose to put your faith in Charles Darwin, who would have all believe that there is nothing extra – ordinary about us, we are just a more highly evolved monkey! ( Which in your case, may be very close to the truth!)

As far as the age of the earth, there is no “scientist” that can give you a definite figure. They say that natural formations in the earth, such as the Grand Canyon, would have taken millions of years to be created. That is unless you factor into the equation a cataclysmic event such as … I don’t know … a global flood.

Now bone evidence has a very interesting, and rather embarrassing history as well. I give you the case of “Piltdown Man”. “Discovered” in Piltdown, England, this skull was said to be conclusive evidence that we evolved from apes. Great “scientists” studied, and wrote papers on it. It was taught in school textbooks for years. That is until they discovered that the skull was actually glued together! Glued! Some idiot took a human skull and an apes skull and glued it together and the all knowing scientists, desperate for any evidence to “prove” the “theory” of evolution, accepted it as fact for fifty years! Pardon me if I am a little bit skeptical about what passes for science.

I realize that I am not going to change your mind. You, as I said before, will more than likely die still choosing to believe in evolution. But do not fool yourself into believing that it is any thing other than a belief. A belief that you have faith in. Very much like Christianity. Except in my belief I have a purpose and reason for being on this earth and goal to reach at the end of my life. You have … Nothing.

I am a right-wing, teabagging extremist and I wish Sarah Palin would just go away or go get an Oprah-like show where she could showcase her talents. I’d love her in that venue. She is a charming and beautiful woman. I’d love to hear her tips on fashion, beauty, exercise and cooking. Presidential material? No.

Anyway, her attacks on the father of her grandson make her look petty and small. Also, in my mind, it highlights her own bad judgment and lack of decent parenting skills. As a conservative, she was a failure as a parent. Where was the discernment when her first-born daughter was shacking up with this lowlife, Levi? I am sure Levi was the same dirtbag one or two years ago when he was dating and “doing” her daughter as he is now.

All of this outrage and disgust aimed at Levi now is a little too little too late. The Palins should have provided their daugther with better guidance and more supervision when she needed it most.

I’d say, normally, the kids and Levi should be off limits, but the Palins paraded Levi and Bristol around at the RNC convention like the perfect little modern couple. Levi was good enough to shack up with Bristol and good enough to be used as a prop at the convention, but that was then and this is now, I guess. Palin missed her chance to “destroy” Levi, or at least get him out of their lives, when it would have made a difference — several years ago. Now it just looks like sour grapes.

It’s funny how much alike Palin and Obama are and how similar their fans behave. Both have the adulation of adoring and cloying fans who have put them both on pedestals for absolutely NO good reason. Both are empty suits who have been taken out of relative obscurity and plunged on to the world stage way before they are ready for prime time. It’s amateur hour for both of them. The farce of the preemptive awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama in the hopes it will provide him with momentum to actually do something – eventually – is laughable and only highlights his weakness and unworthiness. It has totally backfired on the syncophant, liberal Nobel committee. Similarly, Palin fans are hanging too much hope on a gal that just doesn’t have the goods to deliver.

While I agree with most of Palin’s positions, I just can’t see her convincing a majority of Americans she is the best person to lead the free world. I think we’ve learned our lesson with Obama. This cult-like worship can be dangerous. Getting all caught up in the style and not demanding any substance is not a good plan for electing the president. If Palin looked like Jeanine Garafalo there would be no obsession with her, and if Obama was not an attractive and articulate black man this junior senator with less than two years of experience in the senate would have never been promoted to such heights.

I think there will be a dramatic shift as the people are waking up and will be demanding competence, leadership and substance over style. Obama & Palin — go away. No more beginners, lightweights and empty suits in the Oval Office.

OK – Jonathan: You are buying into a lot of media hype and blindly exalting a woman with no political record who has consistently proven that she’s incapable of holding the office she has and should not seek a higher office. That’s she putting out this book is the latest of her shameless self-promotions, which is odd considering her whole gig is the rustic, aw-shucks humility that endeared her to Alaskans to begin with. You should rethink your alignments to demagogues just because they share your values.

Branwyn: Good lord, you seem like a dick. The one cogent point that Jonathan makes is that Sarah Palin is a governer and you are a guy taking easy potshots at her on the internet. And yet you make statements like “You cannot reason with people like Jonathon, the only way of dealing with them is to ignore them.” Jonathan has actually thrown several points at you that are worth defending, but instead you quickly dismiss him because of your hallowed position as a columnist for the who-gives-a-shit online magazine. This isn’t the Huffington post and you aint Bill Maher. So if guys like Jonathan challenge you, all you do is prove your own ignorance and laziness by ignoring him. Because I don’t think you have good answers to any of questions other than your ho-hum series of ellipsis above (all of which are usually disputed by people smarter than you, and then you’d be stuck saying something snarky while skulking out of the room). So keeping making fun of rich people while secretly envying them, and keep reminded yourself why you matter by making fun of anyone who tries to disagree with you.

Karin – For the record, I’m hardly some huge Obama guy. I didn’t vote for him in the primary and I personally find him far too pandering to the RIGHT!! If I were him, with a democratic congress, I wouldn’t be so obsessed with the idea of bi-partisanship.. The Republicans have absolutely no ideas when it comes to health care, and their thoughts on global warming, gay rights and pretty much every other issue of the day are completely erroneous… In my opinion he should take a page out of Bush’s book, and just ram legislation through, exactly as Bush did with Iraq, the patriot act, tax cuts for the rich and every other thing he did to flush this country down the toilet these past 8 years… So in conclusion… Obama? So far…overall grade of C-… Aside from pleasing the international community by NOT being Bush, he’s pretty much done nothing…

Abomb – I’M personally not ignoring Jonathan, in fact I’m responding to him… I meant politically, out of date ancient thinking MUST be ignored if progress is to be made…

Jonathan – Obama is no hero of mine, he’s a politician like any other politician and I hate all politicians… Apropos to that, to use Sarah Palin’s FAILED governorship of freaking ALASKA as an example of her brilliance is a joke… SHe quit the office to go make more money hawking her books, and probably a talk radio show… Moreover she was being investigated left and right on ethics violations… This woman is a muldoon.. The thing about Palin is, she’s just like Bush (is he brilliant?) they’re both airhead puppets for the right… As for your lecture on the sciences, the major difference between BLIND faith in a fairy tale and science is that science is always PROGRESSING, things can come to be KNOWN in science as new discoveries present themselves daily…

“First – Its Jonath”A”n not Jonath”O”n. For some one who makes their living writing you really should spell check, but then again when all you write is “trash” like the article above I shouldnt expect too much.”

Yes Jonath”A”n, now that you had the ‘briliant’ idea to use spell check you then note “I guess my posting didn’t have enough lude humor for you”.

Remember Jonath”A”n, people who live in glass houses, support failed politicians, failed ideas, fake theories and blind adolation shouldn’t throw stones. At least until Christ’s lesson on this is excised from the new conservative bible.

Sarah Palin was forced to resign for a number of reasons.

First – After the election, the democrats in Alaska were instructed by the democrats in Washington to not work with Sarah Palin on anything. They wanted to break her, before 2012, because they were afraid of her. Issues that should have been getting bipartisan support were now being resisted for no other reason than that it was Sarah Palin that proposed them. This was hurting the state of Alaska. The lieutenant governor advocated all of the same policies that Sarah Palin did, but he would not meet the same kind resistance. So Sarah Palin put the good of the state above what may have been best politically for herself, and resigned.

Second – the frivolous and unfounded ethics complaints that were being brought against her, were not only costing the state millions, but were also costing her a lot of money. In Alaska, anyone can issue a complaint against the governor, and it must be investigated, no matter how ridiculous it may be. Now Sarah Palin is not wealthy. Having to pay 500,000 dollars out of her own pocket to defend herself against ridiculous charges was not something that she could easily do. (That was after six months imagine how much she would have had to pay after two years.) Especially when you are supporting five kids, one of them with special needs. (Not to mention Bristol’s baby, that she is supporting as well.) She made the decision to resign, because it was the best decision for her family.

Now, for you argument that your faith in science is so great because it is always “Progressing”. I give you this parable from the Bible that I think really applies to people like yourself.

Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock. “And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock.

“Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. “The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell—and great was its fall.”

Your faith in science is like a foundation made of sand, because like you said, it is always “Progressing”. Just like sand is always moving and changing from day to day, year to year. My faith in God is based on a foundation made of rock and it can not be shaken. Not by the ever changing popular beliefs of the day, or by the mocking and ridiculing of a left wing idiot.

Branwyn,

Go read John Stuart Mill. The New Yorker called him the greatest liberal who ever lived. Read Part 2: “Of the Liberty of Thought and Discussion.” You will see how idiotic your statement is that “politically, out of date ancient thinking MUST be ignored if progress is to be made.” The fact that it is still uttered in the highest of political houses means it MUST be responded to. But you don’t want to do it.

I know what you’re doing here is comedy and that the internet culture you participate in is defined by its lack of dedication and frivolous nature. But your shots at Palin are unoriginal (you’re going to use her book as kindling? nice work . . .) and therefore add nothing to exposing her for the political mess that she’s made. And while your Simpsons reference is nice fodder for your attack on Jesus, this post deserves the reaction from the “Jonathans” of the world because you’re taking lame, easy shots at people you’ve never met because you (perhaps reasonably) don’t want to; but you start throwing stones (to apply that cliche from the above poster), you become no better than the people you’re attacking.

I don’t read your stuff often, but I can infer from the other two or three articles I’ve read from you (after being directed here from the AV Club) that you’re the kind of guy who feels superior to anyone who disagrees with you and that you don’t give a shit about anything. In others, you’re a pretty mean, unprincipled dude who has a lot of fun pissing on ideas that other people have meaningful and deep-seated relationships with; we get it, they’re backwards thinking “muldoons.”

See what I just did there? That’s what you did to Jonathan. And granted, that may be what Jonathan did to you, but you inspired it by extending your attack on a politician to an attack on a whole culture of people who you know nothing about.

You seem like a funny guy, and you’ll probably dismiss me the way you missed Jonathan, and you’ll be funnier than I was in doing it. But since you have this medium, it would be nice to see you dedicate your obvious talents to building something worthwhile instead of shitting all over easy targets and caricatures.

That would probably require a new job description for you, but I’d welcome that change.

Tom – It’s so funny to me that the people who are the most passionate in espousing the precepts of Christ are actually the most intolerant…

Abomb – I honestly don’t understand your arguments, I’m using my column as a venue for other people to express THEIR opinion, not just mine. Yes, I have my own personal thoughts, opinions, philosophies, but I am certainly not the type of person who is unable to benefit from opposing viewpoints. However, when it comes to Sarah Palin, I’m sorry, no one’s going to change my mind on that nimrod. That’s the thing I don’t understand about a certain section of the Right, while I’m able to be objective about ALL sides (including my own) there’s this blind devotion that people like Jonathan have to their leaders which I just am opposed to… This country wasn’t founded on blind faith…

Jonathan – I’m sorry,again you lost me.. Sarah Palin is not wealthy? What’s your definition of wealth? Sarah Palin resigned for the good of her state?? COme on now! If this is the basis of your argument you’re going to have to do a lot better.

“But your shots at Palin are unoriginal (you’re going to use her book as kindling? nice work . . .) ”

Well my first joke was gonna be using it as toilet paper, but I thought it was a bit too insulting to my ass.

The combined income for her and her husband last year was $166,495. Sure, this is not a small figure. However, when you take into account the cost to raise a child form birth to the age of eighteen, estimated to be around $190,000 dollars ( Multiplied by five children, in the case of Sarah Palin.), not to mention the additional cost of one of those children having special needs, and even someone with the limited brain power you posess can begin to see that she does not exactly have a whole lot of additional income. She most definitely did not have $500,000 dollars to throw away on frivolous and unfounded ethics violations.

I know it must be hard for some one like yourself to cope when someone comes at you with facts, but if you are going to claim to have a “mental acuity greater than that of a pickled herring”, your going to have try a hell of a lot harder than that!

In a side note – if you want proof that Sarah Palin resigned for the good of the state all you have to do is read my previous post. It is all there in very simple english. Dumbed down to the point where even someone such as yourself can clearly understand it!

A) I read your “proof” and I’m sorry to say, it’s a complete joke. I’m not calling YOU a complete joke, just your argument (if that’s what you actually believe.

B) As far as how much the Palins are worth, you’re just wrong…

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/10/palins-net-worth-exceeds-1-mil.html

And I’m sure this is a CONSERVATIVE estimate..

Branwyn, you’re picking the one part of what I’m saying that you can argue with, rather than dealing with my other challenges (that what you write is mean, that you like to caricature whole demographics because you think its funny, that all opinions should be equally tolerated if we’re going to make progress.)

And the part that you picked at, that Sarah Palin is a nimrod, is one I pretty much wholehearted agree with (and haven’t said otherwise). Although I think she’s smarter than you seem to think; I think this is actually a woman with a lot of political savvy who is willing to burn some bridges into build other more powerful ones. I think this biography is a brilliant piece of political timing, because she will take attacks like yours and caricature you the same way you’ve caricatured Jonathan. And she’ll do it to the Huffington Post, the New Yorker, Jon Stewart, and (sadly) David Letterman – who would (unfortunately) be wise to keep his mouth shut in light of recent events (in more ways than one). And Palin will use this book to rebuild her political image and it will work with demographic who follows her. And your vituperations, which I have few doubts you will continue to express, will only further align Jonathan to her. Case in point: read your exchange with him again. He sees himself as a righteous defender of what’s good and right, and by extension he sees Palin as fighting this good fight. And we have a pretty short memory because like to think in sound-bites and what-have-you-done-for-me-latelys and only you and Jon Stewart will be reminding them of all that business about how she could see the Russians from her bedroom window, and that won’t affect her acolytes one iota.

And this objective thing – you’re not really, and neither am I, and neither is Palin, and neither is Jonathan. We are all bound by our subjectivities so deeply and passionately that we will never be able to divest ourselves of them. That you as writer can call yourself objective is sheer arrogance, and that is exposed in every paragraph of this piece. You have a clearly subjective opinion about Michael Cera, John Hughes movies, and Sarah Palin’s autobiography. And my opinion of you is subjective as well, as is your opinion about Jonathan. You may very well be smarter than he is, and your opinions may be better informed than his are (though honestly I haven’t seen that in your rebuttals; you’re just sending him to web-sites). But that doesn’t give you some kind of objective merit that he lacks.

But you prize your subjectivity and call it “objectivity” and that gives you license to make generalizations about people you don’t know and that you make no effort to understand.

And I wish you’d address the other challenges I’ve made to both this piece and your assault on Jonathan in particular and Christian Conservatives in general.

And I realize that proofreading is shitty there . . .

I’m sure her “net worth” is over a million dollars – that is, if you liquidate her assets, sell her house, and all of her posessions, I’m sure you would come up with a figure that is over a million dollars. However, I’m sure that Sarah Palin did not want to leave her family homeless and destitute in order to pay legal bills. I guess in your world that makes her stupid, but it is understandable to anyone with the gift of common sense!

And after reading that opensecrets article, I don’t think either of you have a point. Palin is neither poor enough to be hunting whales for her survival and huddling with her children in a igloo, nor rich enough to be a plutocrat. Her husband has a well-paying job and she makes reasonable money as a governor. A million dollars net worth is well-off, but by no means lucrative. Still, the Palins are not as grass roots as they like to portray themselves.

I didn’t say this column was a bastion of objectivity, it’s obvious that I have my own subjective viewpoint here, and I write my columns with a humorous slant. What I said was I CAN be objective about all sides… vis a vis my opinions about Obama and the rest of the political leaders on the left… Pepole like Jonathan do not have that ability. However, although I am stating my own opinions, I do allow others to use this auspice for the expression of their own as well.. As for sending Jonathan to websites, he came up with a ridiculous figure, and I sent him to the actual DISCLOSED and public record of the Palins wealth. As for me addressing your challenge, what exactly is your challenge? It’s not my job to change peoples minds, or even to write in depth scholarly pieces on the nuts and bolts of my philosphical position, it’s merely my job to try to entertain, cause debate, provide a venue for others to express their opinions. This is after all a column called “Fame Hype”…

Glad you asked for the challenge: I’ll lay it out.

One at a time, then: How are you objective about Sarah Palin? How is your opinion any MORE objective than Jonathan’s? How does this article show your objectivity?

Two: How does this column cause debate when you are attacking such an easy target?

Three and four: I called you mean-spirited and said that you attack demographics that you make no effort to understand; are you or aren’t you?

And unfortunately, I see you are doing as I predicted, resorting to the safe-haven of the frivolousness of your medium as license to say whatever the you want and not have it matter because of that inherent lack of seriousness that the medium often represents. That’s a tautology where I come from.

If you’re not allowed to ‘caricature whole demographics’ then what is the point of writing a column?

I’m a rational thinking human being… After a year of following Palin, listening to what she’s had to say, how she’s handled herself in interviews, how she’s incited crowds with her rhetoric i.e. Obama’s a socialist, terrorist, anyone who doesn’t prescribe to her ultra right wing philosophies is unamerican etc.. after all of this, I have come up with the opinion that she is EMPIRICALLY a total muldoon…

2) How is she an easy target? Is she not the poster child for Christian Conservatism in america? By saying that she’s an easy target, you are yourself dismissing this faction… I have seen what they are capable of these past 8 years (as well as the Reagan years) and I do not dismiss them… I will rail against them, because I feel they’re a divisive, destructive force that needs to be called out on, and not pandered to.

As far as me being mean spirited.. I’ll tell you what’s mean spirited… depriving americans of health care, depriving all americans of their equal rights ALL Americans regardless of their race, religous stance, or sexuality.. THAT’S mean spirited.. and I will attack any demographic that holds up progress.. THAT’S the american way… and believe me I understand them all too well.

And finally yes, this is a column that is meant to entertain… If I can push a few buttons and cause some debate, well then that’s just a plus. That’s pretty much all I have to say.

My figures for how much the Palin’s made came from the Washington Post – a very well respected newspaper.

Show me the article!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2008/10/03/palin_reports_six-figure_incom.html

Failed to leave in this little nugget…

“have assets worth up to $2.1 million”

Moreover, this 166K figure is merely what THEY reported, it leaves out thousands of dollars worth of kickbacks, contributions, side deals, speaking tour earnings and god knows what else…

All that being said, while most of the country is struggling to survive on a fraction of 166K to classify that as NOT wealthy is a joke.

Branwyn,

I didn’t expect this to last that long and appreciate the fact that you took the time to respond.

Bottom line: You are taking your perception of a demographic and applying it to everyone, and therefore making fun of people who are religious because you don’t understand them. You are assuming that ALL conservatives hate homosexuals (or whoever) and deprive Americans of their equal rights, because that’s what those guys at the tea parties (or whoever) do. When there are plenty of decent, religious people who are intelligent and “rational thinkers” and have come to different conclusions than you have. They certainly do not deserve statements like this:

“Whatever it actually turns out to be, I just hope they have an audio version up and ready to go, as it’s pretty obvious a large percentage of Palin supporters have “limited” reading skills.”

Zing!

You haven’t been any more objective than Jonathan is, and there’s no moment of hope or optimism throughout your essay. I know, that’s not the point; You’re burning down a barn; any idiot can do that. I don’t believe that you ever looked at Palin from any objective viewpoint. You get your facts from other places and so does he, as you just proved.

Palin is the easiest target there is, at least as you have depicted her. SNL already raked her thoroughly over the coals, and David Letterman had a good time poking fun at her too. She’s the biggest political joke of the season and this biography will probably only further endear her to her followers and give more fodder to you and your web-site. But you haven’t gone any further than SNL or Letterman or Jon Stewart have except in making the same tired jokes that they all do. But you are much more mean-spirited than all those folks, who at least can separate the target from those who might support her (even blindly), because they are people, after all – people who you apparently don’t like.

What you are, unfortunately, is a mean guy who is kind of smart and kind of funny, operating out of cyberspace with a self-righteous, pseudo-objective axe to grind at caricatures and stereotypes, acting out of some enlightened view of your self that bypasses all the criticisms you throw at other people.

And, lastly, really? You know these people? You have conservative friends? You have conversations with reasonable conservatives (BTW, your dissent of Obama is not exactly ground-breaking)? Or have you become so insulated by your world-view that you surround yourself in your echo chamber with other people who think just like you? I know you can answer any way you want, and I can’t prove you wrong except by saying “Nuhn-uh!” but think about it.

You are a joke!

Your entire article is a joke!

I refer back to my earlier posting about the difference between assets and income. The fact that I have to explain that to you is pretty absurd, and proves what a dim-wit you really are. I also refer back to my previous posting where I admitted that 166,000 was indeed a sizeable amount of money, but when you looked at the amount of money that it costs to raise one child, let alone five, you can understand why half a million dollars was a lot to ask of a their family.

only reason SNL and letterman aren’t ‘mean’ towards the demographic of Palin supporters is because THEY NEED THE RATINGS. Im sure that in the privacy of his boudoir, Letterman has no problem tagging Palin supporters as idiot conservatives.

Where did you get that info about 200,000 to raise a child?
Maybe that is true if you count over the period of 18 years, and for all we know that number may include college. If she makes 166,000 a year she can raise 5 kids. Don’t worry for the Palins buddy.

Abomb – I said a large percentage of PALIN supporters.. and it was obviously meant to be humorous anyway.. (although I do find anyone who supports her to be cerebrally deficient)… I HOPE not all conservatives are Palin supporters… I’ve stated repeatedly FACTIONS of the right wing, when it comes to philosophy… I in fact have PLENTY of friends with conservative viewpoints, and philosophies counter to my own, but whenever we discuss politics it’s never personal.. Time and time again I’ve been PERSONALLY attacked.. I don’t really mind this, as I’m not thin skinned, but if you read through the comments, I have not once personally attacked any of the commenters..

Jonathan – you are a blind follower… The point was whether or not Palin “could afford” all the lawsuits against her.. law suits I might add that call into question her integrity, morality, and honesty… Her assets are her NET WORTH!!! You make no sense, and I think I’ve answered you as patiently and thoughtfully as I can…

Vix – so true!

You are the one who is blind. You are so blinded by your hate and jelousy of Sarah Palin and what she has, that you could not see the truth if it was right in front of your face!

Jonathan, now you just sound like that ‘leave britney alone’ kid.

hahaha… LEAVE SARAH ALONE!!!… I MEAN IT!!!!

Jonathan – Easy tiger, don’t get your undies in a twist… You’re getting so hot under the collar that it’s starting to affect your spelling, and we all know what a stickler you are for spelling!!

Honestly, I couldn’t care less what you think. I just do not understand the level of hatred that you people have for Sarah Palin, and other Republicans. The fact that someone like yourself can make a living writing trash like the article above disgusts me, and the number of people that share your views disgusts me even further. I can understand disagreeing with her politically, it’s all of the personal attacks against her and her children that I find offensive. I do not think that she has done anything to warrant that level of hatred.

I really did not plan on this going on this long, and like I said before, I am never going to persuade you into see things from my perspective, so there is no sense in me trying any further.

Can you show me where I said anything about her children? One thing? This is whats the matter with people like you, you just chatter, spewing forth bible quotes, talking points, and out and out lies… This is what disgusts ME. My opinions are my OWN…they are not spoon fed to me by anybody… You’re a young kid, 22 years old, and I do not hate you… I just really hope at some point you learn to think for yourself.

That’s all fine and good Branwyn; I do think your shots at Palin and the conservatives who follow her are too easy, and don’t really build on any of the SNL/Letterman/Daily Show caricatures.

You’re just more biting at her constituents, which is where the mean-spiritedness comes in. But I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to build an audience. That’s something I know nothing about – I wouldn’t know where to begin if I had to do what you do, and like Perez Hilton, you have to be audacious and incendiary if you want people to follow your stuff. That may seem like a back-handed compliment, and I suppose it is, but I have a lot of suspicion towards this medium (the blogosphere in general, not your site in particular) and the way most of the people who inhabit it think that not giving a shit absolves them from writing anything that is meaningful or useful. And I still challenge your objectivity that you are wearing like a badge, because nothing in that article suggests anything remotely objective and seems inspired by personal indignance and disgust not only at Palin but the people who (however misguided) like her.

And sorry, but this piece isn’t “controversial.” It’s intended to make like-minded folks laugh and opponents seethe. You’re preaching to the choir here, and while you angered poor young Jonathan, you’re probably just to turn the rest away who find you and your opinion of them repugnant. They’ll just ignore you. I wouldn’t let Jonathan build your ego as some kind of grand pot-stirrer.

But don’t be surprised if “rational thinking” moderates who are beginning to turn from Palin see stuff like you wrote and are repulsed by it. Because like Obama or hate him or “lukewarm” him (I happen to really like him), he is building bridges by avoiding the association of such incendiary tactics. It’s not really working as well I’d like it to, but he’s definitely erasing the easy caricatures of liberals by being hard to categorize – a category Kerry and Gore fit like an Isotoner glove. Palin used Letterman as a rallying cry, and I don’t think you want your legacy to be as one who further unites radical conservatives under a cause that they see as being absolutely necessary to defend.

Best of luck; that’s the last you’ll hear from me on this topic. It’s your article, so I’ll give you the last word, even if it dismisses me totally or unfairly.

Again, I never said that this column is based on objectivity, I’m not sure why you’re continuing to harp on that point. As far as comparing me to Perez Hilton, I hardly think that’s the case.. Perez (or at this point his interns) merely lay out gossip, with absolutely no insight whatsoever other than adding moronic captions to photographs of celebrities, and or semen dribbling from their mouths.. As for this piece being particularly controversial, that wasn’t the intent.. it was simply meant to be entertaining. Finally, for someone who “really likes” Obama, the fact that you can defend Palin, who’s just been absolutely unconscionable when it comes to some of he incendiary things she’s said at rallys is hard to swallow… All it would take is one nutjob to get so riled up by the BS that people like Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, et. al vomit up, that they’d attempt something nightmarish against our president… If you think I’m being dramatic, I hardly think so, just look at history, as we all know it has a tendency of repeating itself… During the Bush years, americans were labeled as unpatriotic for not going along with the war, patriot act, tax cuts, etc… I believe the actions of many republicans lwhen it comes to this presidency have proven to be not only unpatriotic but traitorous.

Mr. Lancourt’s eclectic background explains his complete lack of knowledge about how major publishing houses
decide to sign authors.

First, last, and always, there is the potential for profit.

Next, notwithstanding a books’s potential for profits there are more pragmatic issues: Will the book reflect positively on Harper Collins? Founded in 1817, the house has published works by Mark Twain, the Brontë sisters, Thackeray, Dickens, John F. Kennedy, and Martin Luther King.

Only to the terminally obtuse would this list still allow for the possibility that HC’s editors would allow for an author to use the considerable resources available to the house to be used for a petty vendetta.

Harper Collins has thrived for almost 200 years because it is respected throughout the world for it’s unflinching high standards and the considerable efforts it takes to protect itself from negative publicity.
For example, when Harper Collins realized Judith Reagan had brokered a deal to publish O.J. Simpson’s,
“If I did it” she was fired immediately.

Anyone who thinks Levi Johnson will be treated with anything but respect by Pali,her editors, ghost writer and Harper Collins has spent too much time wallowing in Page Six or the National Enquirer.

Such people shoudl prepare to be disappointed.

For what it’s worth, I thought the column was amusing. Good work!

JC – Thanks for the history lesson! I’m not sure what the point was, but it was fun.

Cern – thanks.

Branwyn wrote: “The Republicans have absolutely no ideas when it comes to health care, and their thoughts on global warming, gay rights and pretty much every other issue of the day are completely erroneous…”

None of that is true. The GOP has plenty of ideas on health care reform. However, their ideas, bills, and suggestions are being ignored by the democrats and the MSM. Imagine that! The GOP has approximately 30 bills on health care reform floating around the halls of Congress which are being ignored, as a matter of fact. One of the most promising bills is HR 3400.

GOP’s HR 3400, is the Empowering Patients First Act, which Rep Price and the Republican Study Committee proposed back in July. There are more than 30 — proposed by members of the Study Committee.”
http://www.picayuneitem.com/statenews/local_story_278101820.html

Just for the record, in case you want to check them out, these are the bills proposed, so far, by Price and his GOP allies in the House: HR 77; HR 109; HR 198; HR 270; HR 321; HR 464; HR 502; HR 544; HR 917; HR 1086; HR 1118; HR 1441; HR 1458; HR 1468; HR 1658; HR 1891; HR 2520; HR 2607; HR 2692; HR 2784; HR 2785; HR 2786; HR 2787; HR 3141; HR 3217; HR 3218; HR 3356; HR 3372; HR 3400; HR 3438; HR 3454; and HR 3478.

Unlike the government takeover bill the dems are pushing, the GOP bills rely on American-style free market principles and actually offer suggestions for bringing costs down for the American people. Sure getting everyone insured is a good idea, but if it causes the average American’s health costs to go up by @ $4000/year how does that help anyone? We can get almost everyone insured AND bring down costs. If you don’t do BOTH, why do it?

The dems’ Baucus bill aims to get everyone insured on the backs of the hardworking middle class who will get squeezed once again. The Price Waterhouse audit, which is out today, confirmed what all the GOPers have been saying. The dems’ plans to tax the insurance companies will result in the costs being passed on to consumers in higher medical costs and insurance fees. That is not the way to get everyone insured and bring costs down. I fact, it will ruin the health care industry.
“The other problem, according to the audit, is that all the fees, fines and penalties of the insurance and medical industry will simply be passed onto the insured. That’s obvious. The bill, according to the CBO, will cost $829 billion over ten years. That won’t come from the air. That will come from somewhere. Some of it will come from fees for the uninsured. Others will come from new fees and taxes on insurance companies and the medical industry. As the cliche goes, corporations don’t pay taxes, people pay taxes. By this, what is meant is that any taxes on corporations simply get passed onto the consumer. That’s what the study concluded as well.” http://theeprovocateur.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-this-bombshell.html

The GOP bills focus on insuring everyone, getting rid of preexisting conditions, increasing portability, instituting tort reform to bring down costs, giving tax breaks to individuals and businesses to fund health savings accounts and deregulating the industry to allow insurance companies to compete across state lines unleashing free market principles to bring costs down further. Why do most people only have 3 to 10 insurance companies from which to choose in their states when there are @ 1300 companies in the USA? Imagine getting them all to compete for your business — costs will be reduced substantially. Why are dems stopping this? It is a no-brainer.

Global warming (which they now call climate change since they had to admit the globe is NOT warming – oops), is scientifically suspect. Assuming arguendo that climate change IS happening there is NO conclusive evidence that it is not a natural occurrence repeating in cycle after cycle rather than something we contributed to or can do anything about.

“Al Gore dodges question about inaccuracies in An Inconvenient Truth
“A judge in the British High Court, after a lengthy hearing, found there were 9 significant errors,” said Phelim McAleer, director of Not Evil Just Wrong. “This has been shown to children. Do you accept those findings and have you done anything to correct those errors?” Gore did not provide an answer, saying: “The ruling was in favor of showing the movie in schools.”

When Mr. McAleer sought to press an answer to his question, McAleer’s microphone was cut off and he was escorted away.” UH OH.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/280354

There is no evidence that CO2 has ever caused significant warming on Earth, at least not when the concentrations were within 10-15 times of what they are today. Water vapor is, by far, the most important greenhouse gas in the Earth system. Water vapor accounts for about 95% of the greenhouse effect on Earth. The temperature variations are much more correlated with the Sun’s solar activity/sunspot cycle than with CO2 changes.
THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

“Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere.”

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html

Having provided some strong evidence which disputes the claims of Gore and his ilk, GOPers do want to protect the environment and ween ourselves away from foreign oil. However, you don’t do that by jumping into something that will bankrupt the country, ruin businesses and aid our opposition. GOPers want to do it all, invest in green energy, including solar and wind, as well as clean coal, nuclear, and drilling for oil in our own country. Do it all will reduce energy costs for everyone and will eventually reduce or eliminate our dependence on foreign oil. It will take a steady and slow transition to ween ourselves off of foregn oil without causing an economic debacle.

It is not only an environmental concern, but a national security one. However, you don’t make the transition by forcing government mandates, regulations and taxes on already struggling businesses during a financial crisis. The two top polluters China and India will still be doing business the old-fashioned way. So no matter what we do they will still be polluting the Earth. Let’s not be so naive (or arrogant?) to believe anything we do will change the world in this arena. We can and should do some things in this area, but crazy ideas like the cap and trade scheme will do much more harm than good.

Senate’s cap-and-trade bill is a tax that will crush U.S. economy
http://www.pal-item.com/article/20091011/NEWS0302/910110339

Gay Rights…. There are no “gay rights” per se. There are human rights and individual rights which are protected by our founding documents. You get into trouble when people want to assign special status to some groups and not others, or they insist we change definitions of terms which have stood the test of time for over 2000 years based on the assignment of some sort of special status. There should be no discrimation based on race, religion, gender or sexual preference, but there should be no special rights conferred as a result of any such designation either.

“The temperature variations are much more correlated with the Sun’s solar activity/sunspot cycle than with CO2 changes.”<<—– This makes so much more sense. How can any rational thinking person deny that?

The GOP are owned by the health insurance lobbyists… If they simply got rid of the middleman, and installed national health care, the overall costs would come down, and everyone would be insured.. The public option (which 65% of Americans want) is a compromise that would be far better than the mess we have now… The fact that The US pays twice as much yet lags other wealthy nations in such measures as infant mortality and life expectancy is a travesty…

Ourinfant mortality rate is higher than most of the world’s industrialized nations… life expectancy 42nd in the world, after most rich nations, The World Health Organization (WHO), in 2000, ranked the U.S. health care system as the highest in cost, 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health.. This is disgusting…

The thing about a public “option” is that it’s just that… an OPTION.. All this bullshit about socialized medicine, and the “middle class shouldering the costs” is a smoke screen.. You think Republicans give a rat’s ass about the middle class? We already have many government run institutions in place that are intrinsic to our society.. medicaid, the post office, the VA… All these “proposals” you’ve cut and pasted are a joke.

As far as the change in moniker from “global Warming” to “climate change” is concerened, it’s due to the fact that the current environmental catastrophe we find ourselves in is no longer about “warming” but about a general global change in weather… All scientists are on board with this )save a few crackpots) to ignore this is not only moronic, but dangerous…

As far as your thoughts on rights are concerned, no one’s asking for “special rights” just EQUAL rights… You obviously don’t believe that all human beings are entitled to them, as you specify them as “special”… Is it a special right if a gay couple wants to be married? Or do you believe the concept of marriage to be soley between a man and a woman? Do you believe women should be making equal pay as men or not? Do you believe that gays should be allowed in the military? IS that a special right?

Time and time again, since the beginning foundations of this country, “the right” has been on the WRONG side of history… If it hadn’t been for the southern delegates in the forging of the declaration of independence, slavery would have been illegal… Incredible how the more things change the more they stay the same..

Does anyone really believe Palin wrote any of this book at all? C’mon, it took her five years and four different schools to get a degree in journalism. Her book will reveal nothing new startling, insightful or groundbreaking. Obviously, she’s just out to capitalize on her fame with this book.

How can anyone take her seriously though? I’m a Canadian and she wouldn’t stand a chance in the polls if she was a Canadian politician running in Canada. Hard to believe anything this woman says too… everything seems to be contrived or just plain unrealistic. You know she doesn’t write her own speeches too (except for throwing in the odd “aw shucks” or “you betcha”).

One question to pose to everyone: Would Sarah Palin had gotten this far if she wasn’t attractive? Hillary Clinton is smarter, gutsy, well read and stable but, sadly, not attractive though.

Only in America could someone lie, cheat, fake and deceive and still have a chance to be President.

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