Twilight, Robert Pattinson, and the Enduring Appeal of Broody, Pale White Dudes

So for the purposes of this article, are we assuming that you’ve actually seen “Twilight”? It’s sort of a lameness double-bind. Are you disliking an actor you’ve never really seen? Or did you pay money to watch a movie about… abstinence vampires?

Your move, Branwyn.

MMmMMMmmMMmmmassume away!!!

He saw it and weeped like a 12 year old girl.

wow, sorry ‘wept’.

I did both..

I think most goth kids eventually realize how stupid the whole goth thing really is.

Wow, truly the work of an unimformed person. Have you bothered to look at any of his other work – may i point you in the direction of The Haunted Airman (Dramatic), The Bad Mothers Handbook (Comedic), Little Ashes (Autobiographical Brilliance), How To Be (tortured angst)- not to mention that the guy is a fantastic singer. Why dont you pop along to you tube search Robert Pattinson & listen to the depth of soul in his voice. Now, i am a 31 yr old Twilight Fanatic (slightly outside the demographic you suggest he only appeals to) and i recently ran a poll on our site and with close to 200 people taking the poll over 70% of them were over the age of 20.
So feel free to do some more research on your chosen subject and stop bleating along with the rest of the sheep on the Tween / Goth bandwagon that they think makes up all of the Twilight fans. And hey you should check out the MA (mature adult) section of Twilight fan fiction and get your hands on some racy material to keep you warm at night because frankly, unlike Robert Pattinson, it sounds to me like your a little frustrated and could do with a release. Make sure you wash your hands after, i know i feel the need to clean myself after reading your trash. Feel free to join in the fandom after you have researched a bit more – we do like to convert people, even people like you have some depth of reasoning….dont you?

AMEN IrishTwi…this man is seriously uninformed, Rob is a double threat when it comes to talent (he not only acts, but he’s a very good pianist and sings from his soul)…yes a lot of ppl get hooked by his Edward Cullen role, but IMO, by far, his best role was in Little Ashes portray Salvador Dali (and if your educated in the arts, you know that this was a VERY complex man)

It kills me when “journalists” don’t do their homework.

P.S. BTW, I too am outside your definition of his demographic being a 32 y.o. mother with many more on adulttwilightfans.com (another thing you would of found if you did your homework buddy)

With u all the way Irish People like him no nothing they all assume that its all Teenagers that like him i am 25yrs old most of the twilight followers are above 20 like Taylor Lautner said on The Tara Show a woman of the age of about 40 asked him to sign a thong for her.This is not the first artical i have responded to like this everyone like u just target Robert Pattinson because u know that it willl get people to read ur artical to get ur readers up and make u look good to ur editer but like MizJen said DO YOUR HOMEWORK befor you write u articals and then u might have a proper story to write about like how good his past work is.Little Ashes is not a film for Teenagers but as a HUGE Robert Pattinson fan and 25yrs old i think he is a Brillant Actor and a wonderful musican.Like above there is a group out there called Twilight Moms.
So please to save you neck next time PLEASE DO YOUR HOEWORK

I stand corrected, I failed to mention the 25-45 women demographic…

That being said, Twilight still sucks, and if you consider Pattinson to be a ‘brilliant actor’ then you obviously have no idea what acting is…

So Mr. Lancourt – have you seen Little Ashes? – are you even aware of who Salvador Dali was..or the complexities of the man or the sheer tenacity, dedication & again brilliance it would take to portray someone so complex!! Tell us what your idea of a great actor is…and please if you could find a dictionary somewhere to help you progress your somewhat limited vocabulary past ‘still sucks’ the more intelligent of us would really appreciate it.

Wow – are you supposed to be a journalist? I thought journalists actually researched the topics of their articles, not just decided to write the first thing that comes to mind about a current “teen hearthrob”. Consider this an attempt to enlighten you about the subject of your, uh, article. First, he has an impressive body of work behind him already. Do the research. Secondly, he has an impressive lineup of roles coming up. Do the research. Thirdly, he’s an accomplished musician (plays guitar and piano, and is very accomplished with both), singer, songwriter and composer. Once again, do the research. And while its true he has a legion of tweens and teen fans, (whom are probably more Edward Cullen fans), I would bet there are just as many of age, and older, fans that are straight up Rob fans. Blogs are written about him that are taking over the top of the rankings from CNN! (Research Thinking of Rob, and, well, there are really too many to list here.) “All surface and no substance”, “Just another pretty face”, and “.. his whole look is overly stylized…” are just more examples of the fact that you have no idea what the hell you are doing. Rob’s hair just… is. The only times I’ve seen it combed, besides in movie roles, was in photo shoots. And stylized? Are you kidding? RESEARCH would have informed you that our Mr. Pattinson dresses just this side of a being a hobo! He wears the same damned things, over and over, shares clothes with friends, and hell, even sews up tears in his favorite shirts. (RESEARCH the Stoli shirt, for Gods sake.) So, in conclusion – you sir, are an uninformed asshole. And for the record, I’m not 12 years old, or gay. I’m 42, and a fan of Robert Pattinson.

Oh the complexities and sheer tenacity! ‘Little Ashes’ was a mess, couldn’t even get through it. Horribly edited, lame bio-pic. I understand how you’d enjoy all the homo-erotic make out sessions, and shirtlessness, but as far as it being an actual cohesive work it’s literally unwatchable.

Listen, I don’t want to rain on your parade, you enjoy his work and that’s cool. Still, I have yet to see anything from this guy that would ‘convert’ me.

I’m a college-educated, female, 34-year-old movie, TV, book fanatic who voraciously reads the New York Times as well as Rolling Stone, Huffington Post, People (not lately-they’re veering torwards Star territory) and Factcheck.org. And my graduate text books, of couse. I also love Rob…as a person first, then actor. If you got to know him the way the rest of his fans have over the course of the last year you wouldn’t have been able to write 3/4 of your article. Don’t harp on his hair, he doesn’t style it. Give a full analysis of his work thus far instead. But that would mean you’d have to actually watch it. So you think he looks like an effeminate, pouty pugilist? I think you look like a bassett hound who’s eaten too many biscuits. Grab a clue.

There’s a difference in respecting/disrespecting someone’s chosen body of work, and respecting/disrespecting the person. You disrespected the person. For instance, Little Ashes is just one of his movies, and acting is just one facet of the artist that Rob is. Last time I checked, Rob didn’t edit it, direct it, write the screen play, or write Dali’s biography. What Rob did was try to bring Dali’s character to life, which I think he did. (Same thing with Edward Cullen. He brought him to life for millions.)

I guess you could liken it to that fact that some would read YOUR work and either think your a journalist, or a joke. For someone to come to that conclusion, they’d have to read everything you’ve written in order to have to an EDUCATED opinion. And I guess that is where we think you have gone astray. You haven’t fully studied your subject. Maybe you should have just written a “Twilight the Movie Sucks” article. You probably could have gotten away with that.

I’m not here to convert you either. In all fairness though – if you are going to be a journalist with the opportunity to have people read your work, at least be factual enough to make it worth while. If you can’t do that, I hear OK Magazine is looking for staff.

I actually debated writing in or not, but guess what I decided too and here it goes!
What the HELL have you done? I don’t see any “WORK” from you being done? I don’t see “GIRLS” having “Google Eyes” over YOU! And I surely don’t see over 200 plus websites that are about “YOU!” Of course NOT…WHO WOULD! Who wants to SEE YOUR UGLY MUG! Surely NOT I, and NOT any TWI-FAN that I know or associate with!
YOU know absolutely nothing about Twilight and that is obvious just by reading your article..if that is what it’s called? You say that you are a “Journalist”, really that’s interesting. Because according to WIKI, a journalist means, and I quote, “A journalist is a person who practises journalism, the gathering and dissemination of information about current events, trends, issues, and people while striving for viewpoints that aren’t biased.” And by my calculations YOU DIDN’T DO ANY OF THAT, YOU DID NOTHING THAT EVEN QUALIFIES YOU AS A JOURNALIST! So I ask YOU…What do YOU CALL yourself? Because you know aquiring mind’s like “US” Twi-Fan’s are dieing to know?
And YES, it is TRUE WE are absolutly TRUE DIE HARD TWILIGHT FANS TO THE CORE! And YES, it is TRUE WE LOVE ROBERT PATTINSON, TAYLOR, LAUTNER, KRISTEN STEWART, KELLAN LUTZ, ASHLEY GREENE, PETER FACINELLI, AND NIKKI REED. And yes WE LOVE the fact that they are VAMPIRES plus 1 WEREWOLF, that they are HARD, WHITE, COLD AND OH SO HOT! What are you jealous! YOU should be, WHY YOU ASK? Because YOU can’t and WILL NEVER be NOTHING LIKE THEM!
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A “FAN BASE” LIKE THEM!
YOU WILL NEVER BE AS HOT AS ANY OF THEM!
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE GET THE RESPECT THAT THEY RECEIVE!
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THE SOUL AND DIGINTY THAT THEY HAVE!

AND MOST OF ALL YOU WILL NEVER, EVER HAVE FANS LIKE US, BECAUSE TWI-FAN’S ARE THE BEST AND WE STICK TOGETHER!

Go read a good Dali biography,i.e. expand your reading beyond mainstream recommendations, re-watch the movie, then we can maybe discuss its watchability. Although, while you are perusing the bestseller books maybe you should read Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse & Breaking Dawn.

Why, may i ask, did you feel the need to inject the phrase ‘homo-erotic make out sessions’ into your argument? The relationship between Dali & Lorca is simply that, a relationship, it requires no definition. I feel your need to label it ‘homo-erotic’ shows your probable inate uber-heterosexuality & fear or indeed antipathy towards the gay community. Answer me this, if it was a heterosexual relationship being portrayed in the movie, would you have even labeled it erotic or would you have enjoyed the film a lot more?

OK I get it, some Twilight fan club has gotten a hold of this article and decided to ‘school’ me en masse. I’ve seen Pattinson’s work, but what I was writing about in this article was specifically about what young girls (and apparently the cougar contingent as well) find fascinating about about the whole Vampire thing, I folded that into the differences between the 80s goth movement as opposed to today, and further made a personal aside as to the disparity in substance. This was hardly some diatribe on how badly Robert Pattinson blows chunks. I said he was neither here nor there, and that’s my opinion.

Also, basset hound is one thing, but eaten too many bisquits?? I take offense!! I never eat anything but the most lean and healthy dog food they make, and my coat is shiny, silky!! I’m the envy of the kennel!!

Your whole article is offensive to any self-respecting Twilight fan. Indeed it was a diatribe in the nonsensical. It ‘blew chunks’. Excuse my paraphrasing im trying to use words you obviously understand. The ‘cougar-contingent’ are you serious with this? Obviously, having any response to your articles is getting your, undoubtedly, little rocks all hard and tingly so I wont further add to your self-flagellation material. But I will say this, the ‘cougars’ as you call us are fed up of the media en-masse labelling all fans with the one ‘tween’ brush. You are not the first to bear our wrath and you certainly wont be the last. These ‘cougars’ have sharp teeth & we arent afraid to use them.

Yes, these kinds of insightful responses are what I live for! My ‘rocks’ are all hard and tingly, whatever that means…

If I’ve offended you, then so be it… I somehow think you’ll all find the wherewithal to carry on…

and by the way, I didn’t label the movie ‘homo-erotic’ i said there were homo-erotic make out sessions, which there were… nice try freud.

Remember…YOU were the one who opened up this topic! Only YOU had no idea what YOU were getting yourself into and YES the TWI-SITES are aware of WHAT YOU SAID! And I can honestly say that WE did take OFFENSE to it! But as it has been said already….
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME AND THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME THAT SOMEONE WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT STARTS TO OPEN UP THERE MOUTH AND SPEAKS AND COMES TO FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE WRONG!

Maybe next time YOU shoud research before YOU open up your mouth and speak, but wait I forgot you call yourself a “Journalist”, but only YOU actually forgot what that all entitles. So here is some wordly advice…
1. Research
2. Study your subjects
3. Don’t judge…because you can make an ASS of yourself if YOU are WRONG!
4. Don’t EVER , EVER, JUDGE A BOOK BY IT’S COVER AGAIN!
5. NEVER DOUDT a Twi-Fan AGAIN, because YOU have NO IDEA how MANY of US are out there!

hahaha…ok mom.

hahaha, virtual lynching – more please, Branwyn!!!

Watch out, Branwyn, the TwiMoms are out in full force! They think it is their civic duty to defend the honor and virtue of Robert Pattinson, and they truly believe he appreciates it. The poor boy is scared out of his wits because of the fanaticism of these people. Keep up the good work. Your article is insightful and well-thought out. Pattinson may well be a talented actor, but he hasn’t shown that yet.

Thank YOU holy hell!! It is pretty unsettling to witness that level of blind fanaticism and the rage accompanied with it, throw in a marked lack of intelligence, and a general disatisfaction with one’s station in life and it’s a pretty frightening stew… There’s always been some element of this in society, but I really think it’s out of control nowadays – on all fronts. I mean, we really can see how it’s affecting our politics.. Anyway, thanks again for reading, it’s much appreciated!

As a 42 year old TwiMom of 5 – gotta mention that I think Branwyn is right. RPatz hasn’t been in enough movies to show much diversity as an actor. So he can play the piano. Big deal. So can a lot of people. He can sing. Look out Broadway.

Please remember that he is just an actor. The obsession that has been shown over this actor is embarrassing for the entire gender. Expected from tween & teens but atrocious coming from grown women.

Had he not played Edward Cullen you ladies wouldn’t even know who he is.

So true Shmeck!

Shmeck, wrong. I’ve seen him before he even played Cedric Diggory in Harry Potter #4. People who are film fans see actors before they’re “big” for the most part.

Branwyn, just a couple things. (1) You got completely pwnt in the comments. You kinda fail. Sorry. It’s entertaining though, watching you flounder about.

(2) Your name is female. Didn’t your mom look up the right gender in the Welsh baby name book? It’s not even CLOSE to being a male name. Hahahahah!!!!

‘pwnt’? Jesus..I actually was reserved in my comments because I didn’t want to be cruel…The responses have been totally moronic, especially since the article wasn’t even about how I dislike Pattinson..

and Branwyn is the masculine of bronwen, so talk out of your ass more…

Anyway, as Shmeck said, I’m actually surprised, the behavior exhibited here is ridiculously childish, something I’d expect from teenagers not middle-aged women… It’s kinda scary, and sad at the same time when the kids are more mature than the adults…That’s it for me as far as indulging in this idiotic exchange… You’re a moron in a league of morons, and not worth it… If any of you actually had anything interesting or enlightening to add to the conversation besides this positively insane fanantic ‘defense’then I would be more than happy to discuss, as I believe (although many here do not) in engaging the reader in the conversation… but this attack from a bunch of imbeciles whose lives are obviously so unfulfilled that they need to obsess over a vampire movie, well I don’t find it interesting in the slightest… Wish you all the best…

Actually you’re wrong. Your name is feminine. So is the Bronwen version. Haha! Wow, like, research? So fail. Still funny, though.

Are you foaming at the mouth yet? Because I daresay in your last comment, I saw flecks spatter the monitor. Keep bleating, honey. It’s making the wolves giggle.

Jennifer- you saw him pre Edward Cullen and likely thought NOTHING of him. That’s my point.

Twilight the movie sucked acorns. Whoever was in charge that movie should be sent back to school for a different major.

These middle aged MARRIED women and their sick fantasies, about that poor kid are, horrifying. You should hear the things they say about the MINOR Taylor Lautner. Undeniably it’s like child molesters. These women SHOULD be ashamed of themselves.

The books were good. They were enjoyed and put down. End of story. Grow up ladies and start paying attention to your husbands. That is the only way you are going to get fulfilled.

Apparently my name is feminine!! I guess you did bring something enlightening to the table… Aside from that, why don’t you take Shmeck’s advice and grow up.

Jennifer- you too should be ashamed of yourself. The guy has an opinion and he gets attacked not only on his manhood but his skill as a journalist.

Branwyn- I sadly apologize for women everywhere. If only they would spend their time on issues that matter, our world would be a better place. Our society has devolved completely when we have nothing better to do but sit around and compare Hollywood stars. Shameful.

Thanks Shmecky! I guess a lot of what I’m attempting to do here is to kind of shed a light on the absurdity of fame…and what our values have become as a society. I appreciate the support and am glad to have you reading along.

To each his own, I say. What rings one person’s bell might not ring anothers. The guy has great acting skills. Have you read the book? He captured Edward’s heart and angst admirably. Yeah; the movie wasn’t the greatest, but he did not write or direct the movie. He acted his part and did it well. I am 54 years old and think he is adorable.
To Schmeckle Cullen: How do you know that these women aren’t spending their time on issues that matter? Are you assuming they don’t simply because they find someone attractive? Everyone needs a little fun and fantasy in their life; if you don’t have that, then I am sorry for you. I’d like to quote another fictional character (if you don’t mind), “Why so serious?”

I don’t think ANYONE would begrudge ANYBODY from having a little fun and fantasy, or finding the kid attractive.. I think that’s great. The point is when you become so obsessed to such an extent that you feel it’s your ‘duty’ to attack anybody that has a different opinion. As I said before, this mentality seems rampant now more than ever, and it’s across the board.. It’s something that I wish people would start examining more closely, because it’s a dangerous trend.

What a bunch of pathetic effing morons… Don’t they have a teabagging rally to go to?

Yeah.. it’s sad.. I really feel badly for the children of ‘MNTwilightMom’ total nutcase.

Maybe your next twilight article should just read “Robert Pattinson. The End”. You would STILL get a spanking from these ladies.

No fair to stereotype Max. I think that most of these ladies wouldn’t care enough to do anything political. Their too busy defending RPatz & looking up his latest breath on the internet.

Take care Branwyn.

You too shmecky! Keep reading!

Well…In my opinion Robert Smith is SOMEBODY…Patisson is nobody…

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Jealous much? I probably would have taken you more seriously if it weren’t for all of your bitter insults, not only to Robert Pattinson, but to his fans as well. We are not all 12 year old girls with out of control hormones. I happen to be 27 years old and I can fully appreciate this man’s talent AND his looks. The way you describe his acting, it makes it seem like you watched Twilight and gave up on watching his other work (I’m talking about stuff other than the other franchise, Harry Potter) before making an informed decision. I have seen his other work outside of the big franchises and I feel that this man has the talent and the smarts to have a long career in Hollywood. Obviously he isn’t going to have an Oscar winning performance from Twilight or Harry Potter, but with the way he is choosing his future roles in how they are completely different than his previous characters and how he would rather choose a great storyline over big named directors/co-stars, give him time and he will prove himself to be on the same level of the great actors we know and love today.

As far as what attracts women to vampires? Personally, at least with the Twilight series, it wasn’t so much as the vampire part of the story that attracted me as it was the romance part. It is just nice to live in a fantasy world where men (or vampires in this case) still have chivalry since it is so hard to find in reality.

Oh come on! if somebody should be offended, its the robert smith fans… how dare you put his picture after robert pattinson?? shame on you Branwyn..

And who cares about the male/female name? how did that became some sort of defense of the acting skills of pattinson… seriously, i don´t get it.

You know, this fanatic thing is out of control.

I truly hope that Pattinson can have a long and successful career… but it seems that his fans are going to make it impossible… he will always be their beloved vampire.

Crazy people.

These reply posts are hilarious! “NEVER DOUDT a Twi-Fan AGAIN, because YOU have NO IDEA how MANY of US are out there!” YOU BETTER WATCH OUT YOU DOG LOOKING, GIRL NAME HAVING, HOMOPHOBIC BASTARD! WE’RE ALL OVER THE PLACE!

Hey Branwyn, good article, and even better job not getting too into it when all these stooges were give you a mob tongue lashing. Some of you ladies honestly should be ashamed of yourself. Not all of you, a good number of you were just defending someone you admire, and that’s honorable. But a couple of you! To attack the journalist’s character, and connive in your little clubhouse fan websites where all you really do is troll around the web looking for things about your hero? That’s ridiculous. Would you let your kids partake in such tomfoolery? I would hope not.

Branwyn, I’m actually looking for another article you did about our ultra-sexualized media being fed to our children, while at the same time they’re pounded with hyper-moralist right-wing ideologies, and how you hope that doesn’t fuck them up. I was wondering if you could direct me to that link? I can’t seem to find it. Thanks!

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Wow, for what’s it worth, I’m a 19-year-old girl who enjoys Twilight well enough and I agree with you. Robert Pattinson isn’t that attractive and he really isn’t that talented. While I admire anyone who can write and play their own music (even though it’s not my style), I don’t think he’s a great actor. Angry Twilight/Rob fans need to understand that not everyone is that impressed with their guy.

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Branwyn,

I did not dare post a comment until after reading all the comments on the article you wrote. And although, at age 43, I too enjoyed all the Twilight books and find the young actors to be atractive, I have to agree with Schmeckle that woman that are over the age of 18-25 and dreaming of these boys as a “partner” are just icky. I still get grossed out by the one Mom who had panties that said “TEAM TAYLOR.” My 13 year old daughter has posters up in her room of Robert Pattinson & Taylor Laurten all over the place. She thinks it just too gross when “old” people think young guys are good looking. She told I was silly to say Robert Pattinson is cute. I have to wonder if these other Moms know what their daughters think when the get all goofy over these young actors.

Now since I was there during the 80′s – I thought goth and and whole goth thing sucked. But the whole “pale, broody, white guy” thing, I get that. All the girls in school thought those guys were good looking and a mystery but I also thought maybe they did drugs or drank or something else I didn’t think of doing under the age of 18. Times have changed.

Twilight, as a movie sucked. The young actress, Kristen Stewart, really was a bore and did not meshed well with Robert Pattinson. I’ve seen her in allot of other movies and she was wonderful. I really enjoyed her in “THE LAND OF WOMEN.” She is great when she is meshing with her co-stars. She just didn’t have that in Twilight at all. It was like she was trying too hard to be boring. Robert Pattinson’s acting also left me wondering if dumbass that wrote the screen play and the woman who directed the movie were thinking with their brains. The movie had maybe 5 scenes that were any good. There was hardly anything good about the whole movie. I could spend hours tearing this movies apart just because it was so poorly done. If I was Stephanie Meyer I would have cried.

Twilight the book was great. I enjoyed it alot. I should never read a book and then see the movie. It is just disappointing.

Now, on to your top 10 actors of all time. Seriously, got someone younger? Paul Newman and Jimmy Stewart were great actors. Most of the the rest of your list – whatever. But seriously, Robert Pattinson has yet to show he is even in the same room with names like Paul Newman and Jimmy Stewart, so I think your list is just unfair to compare. Compare him to stars like that boy who plays Harry Potter.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I still think you are a self-righteous, pompous ass but as a male, you probably can’t help it. Maybe you can find a better picture of yourself. And shave off those horrible side burns. And get a dnice hair cut. Just a thought. Just a thought.

What do you look like? I’d really love to know…or may I wouldn’t. As far as comparing him to Daniel Radcliffe, that’s not the point.. I was asked who I thought was GREAT, and since all of you people keep going on about the brilliance of the guy, why not compare him to the greats? ANyway, since you asked.. Daniel Radcliffe is better.

” His whole look is so overly stylized and contrived, I mean, what’s with the hair?”
And I mean, c’mon dude, what’s with YOUR hair???!!! 1960′s are calling, they want their hair back!

Rob looks as delicious with short hair as with his SexHair (you can google it! That’s what I said not Edward Cullen)

I feel your pity. Even docmartins and eye liner didn’t help you get laid. You probably were good at school, had a dream to become a great writer but look at you now. 20 years later you are writing for some pathetic web site, and only way to get people comment on your article is to write about the hottest guy. Your wife or GF are probably secretly in love with RPattz (or you don’t have either!) You are just little jealous, aren’t you?
P.S. I spy with my little eye… and you should be happy about this… You and His Holy Hottnes have one thing in common:
you both like plaid shirts! I know, who would think in a million years that’s possible!

how old are you? I’m being seious… Please don’t tell me you’re older than 15..PLEASE don;t tell me that, or else I’m really gonna be depressed.

I hear the ‘he’s only starting out’ argument a lot. That’s fine. I was asked what I thought were ‘great’ actors, and I gave my list. To give a bit more back information…

Jack Lemmon won an oscar for his first major role
Dustin Hoffman was nominated for an oscar for his first major role, and then again 2 years later
Nicholson was nominated for an oscar for his first major role
Brando was nominated for an oscar for his first major role…

They all weren’t much older than Pattinson.

It’s one thing if you think the guy’s got ‘sex appeal and charisma’.. but it just backs up my INITIAL argument…and I will quote…

“As far as his acting skills are concerned, from what I’ve seen he’s kinda like the bassist in Spinal Tap – luke warm water. Neither here nor there, just egg shell white, wall paper mundane-ity. Still, this kid is the hottest tween sensation since Kirk Cameron and that’s fine by me. Hell I’m no party pooper, let the little chicklets enjoy their new found messiah to their hearts content. However, it does give me pause. If our heroes are a direct reflection on ourselves as a society, then what does it mean when they’re all surface and no substance? Robert Smith set a legion of disaffected young ladies hearts a twitter with his rats nest hair and smeared lipstick, but underneath the cultivated façade was a genuine artist. Robert Pattinson is just another pretty face, which I fear is all anyone wants to aspire to be anymore.”

Ha! These comments kept me enthralled for the past 45 minutes! It is insane how worked up people get about this guy…I mean to break out the CAPS??? I am a huge fan of Twilight but the movie was pathetic…It was creepy and the acting being called “lukewarm” is a forgiving statement. It sounds like fans are grasping at straws to prove this guy’s worth, his name’s Robert right? Yeah…I don’t even care enough to remember. Give me Edward Norton or Ryan Gosling any day!

Branwyn, you’re a funny dude. Keep up the good work

thanks 1bad.. you should check out the comments in the robert pattinson vs. the top 10 actors of all times threads… that should be good for another 45 minutes of entertainment at least

this is quite sad what you write about the problems with getting laid and all… but I used to be a little goth girl in my youth and I did date guys who didn’t listen to the same music I did and didn’t dress like I did. I dated guys who were nice to talk to and who didn’t build their self-esteem on: how not mainstream is the music they listen to or how deep and meaningful are the books/comic books they read/ movies they watch blah blah… because doing these things if you take yourself and your opinions too seriously just makes you a boring snob. I think that was why girls didn’t want you, not because you didn’t belong to their subculture enough.

Pattinson made at least 2 nice films before Twilight, “The bad mother’s handbook” and “the haunted airman”, and he acted really well in these. the fact that he was lucky to hit the commercial jackpot with Twilight, well good for him, if he decides to stay in the blockbuster movies for the rest of his career, than good for him, his choice. however if he hadn’t been chosen to play Edward, he would probably still play only in independent and arthouse cinema. you probably wouldn’t even know he exists, neither would he have millions of crazy fan girls. and it is not even that he himself has got all these fan girls, neither does Daniel Radcliff, they are often just identified/confused with the characters they play.

you seem to feel that you can distinguish yourself as an “intellectual” by saying something/someone popular is pathetic. how can we as a thinking species stoop to entertainment and blah blah… to me this just shows that you are no better than those teenage girls who love some fictional characters or celebrities and bash everyone who doesn’t love the same stuff. you have just created a different cult of things high-brow, rare, meaningful etc which is in opposition to their cults and you believe that by following this cult you are a better, more valuable person than those teenagers, you seem to feel that you can write them all down as stupid and incapable of insight – just a slightly more sophisticated way of insulting someone, who doesn’t share your beliefs. Simply, because in your book intellectual is a more powerful and desirable adjective than popular or handsome.

oh and Pattinson is not effeminate. the fact that he doesn’t have a strong macho body language does not make him instantly effeminate, he is just not macho-manly. it is not like a guy is either macho-manly or effeminate, most guys are neither. if you think that in the twilight make-up he has a soft girly face you are confusing Edward the fictional character with Pattinson the actor. and any way he has a far too strong jaw bone to be effeminate purely aesthetically. if you want true effeminate(*) try Quentin Crisp, young Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Cillian Murphy or practically any Japanese male celebrity.

(*) not this teenage girls like it, so it has to be effeminate derogatory meaning nonsense.

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