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Co-Parenting, Narcissism, and Emotional Abuse of Children During & After Divorce

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Emotional abuse of children during and after divorce proceedings is one of the most insidious and common problems we hear about from co-parents who contact us via CoParenting101.org. Emotional abuse is generally more difficult to prove than physical abuse, and family court judges and lawyers who have seen it all know that such charges can be slippery and easily thrown around by divorcing parents, without merit. To some extent, they expect embattled divorcing parents to make damning but ultimately unfounded accusations against each other in an attempt to emerge as the better parent and “win” in the divorce. (This is why children’s issues have no place in an arena that by definition seeks to identify a “win” and a “loser.” But that’s a different rant for a different day.) The result can be that accusations of emotional abuse are minimized, not thoroughly investigated, or dismissed outright.

So when accusations of emotional abuse do have merit, the parent making the charge may face an uphill battle to have his/her concerns about the children’s well-being taken seriously.

Narcissists are amongst those who emotionally abuse children during and after divorce. Narcissism is “the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness.” While Freud argued that “healthy narcissism” is essential to normal human development, high levels of narcissism are manifested pathologically as narcissistic personality disorder. While co-parents shouldn’t invest themselves in trying to diagnose their exes, understanding their personality traits or potential disorders can be useful in learning how to deal with them constructively and in ways that benefit the children.

Here’s an excerpt from an article that addresses how narcissists abuse children during and after divorce:

Narcissists will use people in whatever way is necessary to get what they want. This world view also applies to their children…During and after divorce, a narcissist’s emotional abuse of their children may seem more direct or blatant…

Narcissists are masters of lying. They will lie to their children and distort reality the same as they do to everyone else. Often, narcissists will sacrifice their children’s well-being in an attempt to save face. This leaves the children feeling confused and unsure of their own reality and judgment. Narcissists will ask their children to lie for them, keep secrets and to spy on the other parent.

Narcissistic parents do not respect their children’s desires. They may make promises to the children in order to gain compliance from the child, then refuse to honor the promises. Children may miss out on birthday parties, sporting events or other activities important to them in order to accommodate the narcissistic parent’s wishes. The children soon learn that what they want is not important when with the narcissistic parent…

It may seem excessive or restraining but in the long run…written agreements will often be easier than constantly renegotiating with an unreliable and emotionally abusive former spouse.

Divorce is never easy on children. Coping with a narcissistic parent makes a stressful situation even more difficult. Learning to identify the games narcissists play can help parents to minimize the emotional abuse children suffer at the hands of a narcissistic parent.

Source

See the source link above for the complete article and for tips and strategies for dealing with a narcissist during and after a divorce.

Take a look at these “Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism.” These behaviors on the part of a parent can wreak havoc on a child emotionally:

Shamelessness – Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.

Magical thinking – Narcissists see themselves as perfect using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.

Arrogance – A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.

Envy – A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person’s ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

Entitlement – Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Any failure to comply will be considered an attack on their superiority and the perpetrator is considered to be an “awkward” or “difficult” person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.

Exploitation – can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.

Bad Boundaries – narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist will be treated as if they are part of the narcissist and be expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist, there is no boundary between self and other.

Source: Hotchkiss, Sandy & Masterson, James F. Why Is It Always About You? : The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism (2003)

Googling “narcissism and divorce” yields a ton of resources which I believe is a testament to just how draining this particular personality trait or disorder can be in a situation that is already difficult and emotionally charged. The conventional wisdom for dealing with narcissists is: Get away from them. But of course that’s not possible when you must co-parent.

One co-parent we know told her children: “I’m your mother; I can do anything I want with you and to you” in response to their father’s attempt to intervene on their behalf.

So what’s a concerned co-parent to do? Bill Eddy, founder of The High Conflict Institute and author of Don’t Alienate the Kids! Raising Resilient Children While Avoiding High Conflict Divorce shared some advice with us on an episode of “Co-Parenting Matters”, “Dealing With High Conflict in Your Co-Parenting Relationship.” (podcast at the link). According to Eddy, it’s important to realize that you cannot change a narcissist. And certainly trying to convince the narcissist that he’s a narcissist is pretty much a fool’s errand.

Here are some additional tips for dealing with a narcissistic co-parent:

Don’t swing at every pitch. For example, emails that are just rants, atttention-seeking, or expressions of self-aggrandizement should be ignored. Address any issue or problem that relates to your child; attack the problem, not the other parent, even if s/he is on the attack. If you do respond, keep it brief, to the point, and business-like.

Maintain firm boundaries. Limit your contact and communication, and maintain boundaries to keep the narcissist from inserting him/herself in your household and in your relationship with your children in inappropriate ways.

Accept that you can’t win an argument with a narcissist. Give up any efforts to be “right” in the eyes of the narcissist–even if you are. Focus instead on peace and wellness for your children.

Don’t take it personally. The narcissist has a disorder that’s about them, not you.

Take care of yourself. Divorcing a narcissist with children in the mix means that for some years you will not be able to completely sever ties with this person. Dealing with them can be exhausting and stressful. Commit to self-care to bring yourself some relief. Your martyrdom will not help your children.

One co-parent we know told her children: “I’m your mother; I can do anything I want with you and to you” in response to their father’s attempt to intervene on their behalf.
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  • http://www.divacoachdabney.com Dabney

    Your work is simply the best I have found in regard to co-parenting during and following a divorce. I will continue to direct my clients to you…the feedback of the learning they tell me they receive from your resources is beyond amazing. Thank you for always encouraging, supporting and educating parents that there is a way to co-parent effectively and with integrity following divorce.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    Thank you, Dabney! That is high praise coming from you. I’m glad to be in your “nest”, and I appreciate your encouraging words and positive spirit. When people poo-poo social media and the connections made therein, I know it’s because they haven’t met you. :-)

  • Kathryn Higgins

    A great article on a very important subject. Thanks for this. My only thought is — if you’re dealing with a Narcissist, you’re doomed! Although actually some very good advice here about boundaries and etc.

  • http://coparenting101.org/ Deesha

    Thanks for your comment, Kathryn. Yes, there is such a sense of hopelessness that comes with dealing with a narcissist.

  • Andrea

    This is a great and very timely article. While reading I could swear you were writing about my husband’s ex-wife. She is a true narcissist and displays every behavior you mentioned above. Every single one. It is very difficult and I have entered into therapy to deal with my hatred for this woman. Her sons spend the majority of their time with us and tend to take their frustrations out on me. I am in the process of dealing with and understanding them and their actions towards me when they come to visit and your article sheds more light on the subject. I will be printing the article to read for future reference and to remind myself that my step-sons are in a terrible position and struggling to survive this…and their actions are probably not how they truly feel.
    Thank you…this article came at just the right time!

  • http://coparenting101.org/ Deesha

    You’re welcome, Andrea!

  • A.

    Well, I’m not an ex of a narcissistic parent but a daughter of one, actually, a mother. I can only tell one thing: she made sure to absolutely alienate me from my father. The latter is no saint but my mom made such a hell of my life that I had to make a choice to get piece of mind, that I actually, never got. She lies like… I can’t even qualify it.

    Anyway!!! It might not be nice to say that it was comforting to read that a mom told her child she could do whatever she wants of it but it was to me because my mom told me the exact words. Actually, she said: “I’m your God. If I tell you to lie down so that I can walk over you, you should.”

  • Deesha

    A…I hope that, despite your mother’s hurtful actions, you now have (or are on the path to having) peace of mind.

    Best,
    ~Deesha

  • Luisa

    All true! I have co-parented as well as I could over the past 10 years by constructing solid boundaries and sticking to discussions about our son only. But now I am in increased contact with him due to the fact that our son, now a senior is applying to college. He is up to his old tricks (controlling conversations and accusing me of interrupting when I want to say anything, e.g.). But now I see that our son sees us as equally “bad” in our behavior. I have made such an effort to be the sane and supportive adult, but the N father seems to be let off the hook perhaps because he controls the purse stings? I also have been the one to hold my son’s feet to the fire and firmly (but fairly) discipline him. At 17 shouldn’t he realize what his lenient (really it’s neglect) father has been up to?

  • Karen

    My ex husband is a narcissist (diagnosed by forensic evaluator in custody battle. In one paragraph it reads DSM1V Narcissistic personality disorder. In another paragraph it reads that he is emotionally retarted. Same thing. We have been divorced for 2 years, apart for more than 5 years. I have sole custody of the kids (which does not effect his rightful parenting time)and he is gradually turning the kids against himself by bad mouthing me constantly and calling C.P.S. constantly and dragging me into court. Nothing ever comes of it but he knows I cannot ignore him if he keeps doing this. He also knows it is hard for me to stay employed if I have to keep going to court. He doesn’t seem to care that his kids are losing respect for him because no matter what they think of him, by law they must go with him. Its an ownership or entitlement thing.

    I have a 2017 calendar on my bedroom wall. It has my freedom day circled in red. If they haven’t already it is the day the kids can tell him to go to hell. (They are twins)

    Thanks Deesha!

  • Lisa

    I have a 7 year old son and two grown daughters with my ex. We have been separated since my son was 2 and divorced since he was 5. I recently began refusing him visitation because of alcohol abuse (he regularly drinks and drives) and have almost had to have him removed by the police. I make excuses for why he can’t go to daddy’s house but my ex insists on telling him that the reason he can’t go to his house is because I’m keeping him from seeing him. I’m looking for a therapist for my son now. What kind of monster tries to manipulate a 7 year old? He’s always been this way and our adult daughters refuse to have anything to do with him. Of course, he claims that it’s my fault, but in actually it’s his behavior and drinking that caused them to feel the way they do.

    I’m preparing to go back to court to try to limit contact with him to protect my son both physically and mentally and appreciate the information on this site. Any suggestions or comments on what I can do would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
    -Lisa

  • Karen Mangold

    Deesha,
    I just wanted to thank you for this article; my boyfriend is currently dealing with this regarding his ex wife and we are attempting to gain custody of his children because of her emotional abuse of them; unfortunately it is a difficult road to take, but we are forging on for the kids sakes. Every single thing describes his ex, and it is sad for all involved. I printed up your article to take to therapy this evening; so thanks so very much.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    All,

    So sorry to be delinquent in responding!

    @Luisa: Even at 17, some kids realize the truth, but find it hard to face this hard reality about a parent. And of course some kids will ride out the leniency as far as they can until the real-world intervenes and they run into consequences. Parenting can feel like a thankless job in general, but even more so in situation like these. We have to rest assured in knowing what’s best and right, even if your child can’t (or won’t) embrace the truth.

    @Karen and Karen M: You’re welcome! I’m glad the information resonated with you/was helpful.

    @Lisa: It sounds like you’re doing everything you can. Perhaps with the help of a good counselor, you may be able to explain to your son the real reason that he can’t go to his father’s house by discussing alcoholism as a disease, a sickness, leaving the door open to future contact when he gets well.

    Best,
    ~Deesha

  • J.R.

    A honest and helpful article. I am a single Dad. My son has just turned 2 years old. I recently separated from his mother who is a narcissist. We separated three months ago. I wish the reality was different and she was almost anything but … but descriptions of NPD hits the nail on the head. Although there were many signs from the outset I didn’t really understand completely until about a month ago. The relationship was terrible. I deeply love my son and want to do what is best for him. His mother has four children in total…from four different fathers. I am the fourth father. All the other children have limited relationships with their children. She pretends to promote them…but seeks to alienate them using every trick and manipulation in the book. I am pretty traumatized emotionally from all that I witnessed. I tried everything to be supportive and be the peacemaker and lover and friend to my son’s mother. I thought she had low-self esteem issues from her abusive upbringing and for the false picture she portrayed about how the other fathers had been unreliable, inconsiderate, and abusive. I blamed myself for being so stupid. By the time my son was born…I was already becoming aware of the potential that she was going to alienate me from the family (including the other kids who I formed attachments too) and my son. I decided that I wasn’t going to let that happen and everything quickly went to plan. I never wanted to be a “Disneyland Dad” or a uninvolved worker-bee. I wanted to participate in being a good parent to my son. I changed diapers, fed him, put him down to sleep and played and interacted with him as much as possible while also working full-time and doing my share of household chores. But it was a no-win situation. Everytime I would be doing one thing she would criticize and complain that I wasn’t doing enough of the other things. The battle for supreme control of everything was on. When I resisted her will, she upped the ante by making false calls to the police x2…claiming I was threatening and scared her. She would let me look after and do activities with my son when it suited her…but would undermine them at times without any real warning. I wanted to take my boy and get him a haircut and told her I wanted to do that. I told her it was special and important to me and that she could get his haircut the next time. She reluctantly agreed (up until then she had cut his hair herself and it was uneven and botched) but then gave me a list of directions on how to get his hair cut …like which barber I had to take him too…etc. The day before we were going for the haircut she had invited her sister over and the two of them gave him another home haircut that looked terrible. I was so mad and distressed. This pattern happened a lot but was becoming more and more alarming. I saw what was going on but I still would try to reach out to her. My attempts made for many long nights. There was so much stuff going on and she started to do everything she could to cut me off from firends relatives and everything. When I would introduce her to a friend or relative of mine she would go the the most extreme levels to try to win them over. She kept an extroardinarily tidy home and always complained that she did all the work and everything. IT all came to a head when she lost her cool and punched me in the face twice while I was holding my son. One of her punches skipped off my face and hit my son in the face. I wanted to kill her. I am proud that I didn’t…but also ashamed. I called the cops and they came. She went into victim mode and since the punches didnt make any visible damage they basically asked me to leave so the household peace could be kept. I had no place to go but I went anyway. It felt like leaving my organs behind when I left…my baby boy was still there. I went to work. That day some pretty strange stuff happened…good stuff…I found that I had some real good friends. A guy I barely knew offered me a place to stay till I could get back on my feet. Basically, an amazing chain of events happened and everything started coming together extraordinarily fast. I worked hard at doing some emotional first aid on myself and resolved to getting my son back in my life. I didn’t cry much…I worked out and looked after my body and I found a perfect place only three blocks away from hers and can walk to work. I took ownership of my problem but I also reached out. It isn’t over yet. I obtained a co-parenting order and since she needs to work and she had no real reason or examples to not allow me any access to my son she consented to it…although she made me fight for every little thing. However, the order is only temporary until we come up with a co-parenting plan. She is trying to undermine and control everything and a whole bag of tricks has been opened up. She tried seducing me and giving me “gifts” and trying to coax me into giving up my boundaries. She started a feeling out process of seeing how much she could get away with. When the seduction didn’t work out she said something peculiar to me she said “So the spell is broken.” Dum dum da! Ominous! Shortly after that every single time I am scheduled to have parenting time she tries to provoke me or change plans or throws a curveball. It is really starting to escalate. She is making false accusations that I neglect my son and pretty much doing anything to undermine or upset my balance. As a condition on the parenting order I had a condition requested that communications be done in writing or text if either party insists. Primarily to remove any fights or negative interactions in front of our son – who has seen enough. I insist on it whenever she changes plans or whatever or I address a concern. She keeps trying to wiggle and literally can not give up control. I have several examples of narcissistic rage and some crazy correspondence in my email. She is still trying to pretend like she is being reasonable and fair …we still have a mediation court date as the next step…while she seeks to destroy all she can and alienate my son. Which brings me to my son. He is so far seems OK. He still plays and laughs and seems normal and happy. He is just learning how to talk and he continues to develop. I try to put it all aside when he is with me and I am learning how to be a parent of a two year old on my own. I love him so much and I still am very much worried about what she is capable of. Basically she seems to be getting worse not better. I am less concerned with each documented incident that when we go back to court that she is going to have any success in enacting what she threatens to do to me…take away my son. I still have late night panic attacks where I get short of breath and nightmares of my son falling down a well into blackness and I can’t save him. I took a week off work because i couldn’t function for awhile. But I am trying to trust the universe to let go of attachment to an outcome (from some medication stuff I read) and I beat the shit out of the heavybag at the gym to work on getting some anger out in a better way than reacting. Sometimes it is hard. I hope it goes well. I envision a future with my son being happy…she isn’t in the picture….that doesn’t actually make me happy…it is going to be so hard for him to adjust to that if that’s what it comes to but I will love the shit out of this little guy. I will prevail for you my boy…I will never quit on you…and hey..psychotherapy is on me when or if you need some of that after all this crap.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    J.R., I was particular struck by the self-care you described–physical, emotional, and mental. It’s like you’re in training for battle…for your son’s well-being and your own sanity. It’s tempting to stay focused on what the other parent is doing (or not doing)–particularly the narcissist who wants everyone’s energy anyone. But by stepping back to keep yourself mentally and physically strong, and to cope with your emotions in a functional way, you are making a huge investment in your son’s future…and your own. I hope that sanity and reason prevail in your court case. All the best to you and your son. ~Deesha

  • J.R.

    What I expressed was my personal experience in the hopes that some guy out there that has gone through similar things would be able to understand and feel non-judged and that his true feelings are acceptable and OK and normal for what he has gone through. It helped me to work through it on your page…but I don’t really appreciate the judgement…it is a work in progress. I deeply care about my son….a lot more than you seem to care about my feelings and my right to express them. Your attitude is pretty common. Nice hat.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    JR, I was complimenting you and your approach. I said that it’s tempting to do xyz when dealing with a narcissist and you’re NOT doing that. I’m sorry that wasn’t clear.

    ~Deesha

  • J.R.

    I was wrong about your comments. I owe you an apology. I was projecting my own fears about being perceived as insane or crazy these days. I wasn’t sleeping or eating well. She keeps doing everything she can to try and mess with me and sometimes it is working. It is a disorienting experience that has me not knowing who to trust sometimes. It is impossible for many people to understand what it is like…but I really do appreciate what you said now, Deesha. I hope you understand.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    Hi, JR,

    All’s well. :-) I’m glad I could clarify. I can only imagine your stress and frustration, and I know what you mean about many people not “getting it”, which adds a whole other layer of frustration. I wish you and your son all the best. ~Deesha

  • Erica

    Deesha – Your words are so right on…but how do we get the court system to see it? I am in the middle of a 3 year custody battle – my soon to be ex was diagnosed as a narcissist by 2 court appoointed psychologists. The Judge continues to lean toward a 50/50 split – how does she not see the impossibilities of effectively coparenting with a narcissist? I am in Supreme court and wonder if the Family Court System is more in tune with the effects of a narcissistic parent. My 12 year old daughters grades have plummeted in the last 2 years and my 8 year old son needs counseling for the effects this process has had on him. The court seems to be focused on spliting custody in a way that both parents win equally – isnt it supposed to be about the childrens best interest. I hate being helpless when my children reach out.

  • Angela

    I am in the middle of this chaotic sandstorm myself. We have been embattled with my husbands ex wife for years and I can only pray that the court evaluating psychologist and the judge overseeing our case finally give us some help. The child involved has become completely detached and hateful toward our enire family unit. The mother and step father have taken every opportunity to destroy any and all type of relationship between the child and our household. I am literally shikng after reading your article, its as if you wrote a complete description of the the narcissistic team we have been up against for over 10 years. Thank you

  • Deesha Philyaw

    Hi, Erica,

    I wish I knew how we get the court system to “get it.” I believe the whole system needs an overhaul because nothing to do with families belongs in a system that is by its very nature adversarial. We need more judges like Judge Michele Lowrance. She gets it.

  • Deesha Philyaw

    You’re welcome, Angela. I hope for the best for your family.

  • Elizabeth

    My fiancé’s “not soon enough” ex-wife is a narcissist as well as a sociopath. Without trying to diagnose and point fingers as we are not licensed psychotherapists, it is difficult not to see that she has all the traits to describe both personality disorders. Or to rephrase: mental illness. This, combined with the fact that she is a “rehabilitated” alcoholic and drug abuser, and is on her third “relationship” in a year (and has cohabitated with all of them), we don’t find that she is a fit mother to their 2 kids under the age of 10. Unfortunately, “having ovaries” she was granted 50-50 custody after going to rehab and “cleaning up her act.” My fiancé had sole custody for 6 months then she was awarded one night a week and every other weekend (this lasted 6 months) and then sadly it’s currently at the 50-50 state. But now she is now trying to pull a “first right of refusal” at the 3 hour mark. And she has made it crystal clear that she will not accept me as a proper caregiver if he is unable to pick up the kids within a 3 hour time frame. Of course all this has come about due to a variety of reasons including the fact that their son insists on calling me “mommy” (even though I repeatedly tell him that he has a mommy; I cannot help that I love him as if he was my own son and treat him that way…thus leading him to want to call me mommy), their daughter trusts and loves me and enjoys spending time with me and finally, because our new 4 month old baby is now in the picture (who the kids absolutely adore). We have a very loving and stable home and family life where we care about their education, their welfare, their ambitions and responsibilities. Over at her house, she and her partner both are unemployed, there is apparently a “third” adult living there (and a year ago there was a different partner and a third adult living there too), homework is not a priority, forget about the musical instrument practicing (their mother couldn’t be bothered), sport practices are forgotten about….the list goes on. My future husband and I are both well educated and have careers and fear that any extra time spent at the other home will only result in their lack of ambition to either go to college as their mom’s partner is not suitable company (that’s putting it nicely). There’s still no divorce decree (after 2+ years) as she is putting this ultimatum about first right of refusal. But how do you deal with a narcissist with this situation? She is clearly not doing this for the kids’ best interest. (And for the record, it’s been made pretty clear that the children would rather be with us but fear their mother’s rage and comprehend her neediness.)

  • Lizzie

    I just came across this article. The info in it is excellent, thank you for posting it.

    One thing I’d like to mention is that there are several other conditions that are similar to NPD. My future ex has Asperger’s Syndrome, was raised by two very controlling parents, and is ashamed of his sexual interests. Put this all together with a manic rage attack brought on by the wrong anti-depressant, and we have someone who almost matches the NPD profile, but lacks the charm and lying ability of most narcissists.

    I am currently trying to get sole custody of my kids. The teenager refuses to have any contact with Ex, and the courts support that. But I worry about my 5th grader. Fortunately for me, Ex has been doing things that indicate he would be a poor parent, and he’s been posting in public web forums about it. So I feel like I have a chance to protect my kids.

  • V.S.D

    I somehow found this page by googling “co-parenting”. I am currently feeling very sad, frustrated, a bit hopeless, angry…among a few more feelings. I try to stay positive and believe strongly in the law of attraction. Maybe I have attracted all this to to me? Idk. Anyway I have a 10year old son. I didn’t have my dad around much and from day one I wanted my son to have me around. I love him very much and always have. His mother and I do not get along and I believe, after reading info on this webpage, that she is narcissistic. It is very frustrating to say the absolute least. She always has a problem with something and doesn’t seem to care about throwing our son in the middle of arguments. She knows that I try very hard to keep him out of it and not expose him to stressful situations, she uses that against me. She gets away with a lot of abuse and never seems to end. We currently share 50/50 custody (last 3 years), joint custody before that. She’s always pushed for “shared” parenting and the “push” never seems to end. For the last 3 years she has been taking me to court to try to reduce the time he sees me and is wanting child support?? She has made comments about going after my girlfriends money if we were to move in together! She sends me text msgs almost daily. Sometimes 30 at a time. Very controlling. This is feeling kinda good venting lol (just reread all this and it is not feeling good anymore at all lol). I started my own business 3 years ago…part of her issues but what else is new…and this year has been particularly challenging. She makes life much more challenging. Also he is at an age where he is wanted to make more of his own decisions and doesn’t like to be told what to do and when to do it. He still is a good boy and I can understand but…he’s still a kid and doesn’t know what’s best. We got into an argument though last week and I smacked him in the mouth. Not happy about that at all. She now “got what she wanted” as she put it. It is a big game with her and it makes her happy to see me in distress. She is blind to see our sons distress or just doesn’t care. I have been pushed to my breaking point and am close to just giving up. As hard as it is, I just can’t deal with her anymore. I am thinking about giving up the fight and giving her full custody and not dealing with her or my son. That’s so hard to say but I can’t seem to get any help and relief from her. She has refused mediation, counselling, she’s even (because she shares custody and I for some stupid reason need her permission) she’s refused for our son to get counselling?? Wow if she read this she would feel so happy and satisfied…like she has “won”. What a sad sad shame. Been going through court and no help has come of it. She is left to continue to pull her crap with no or little repercussions. Other than the ones left on our child and everyone else. We have a trial date set up for early next year and it feels like all my “ignoring her” and being the “bigger person” and not saying bad things about her to him (at least trying my best not to) has gone to shit because of this recent situation with him and I. Seems like a losing battle and I just look bad in the end. She called Child and family services and now I can’t see him until this is dealt with. I should not have gotten that angry. It was a common theme in my childhood and I know in my parents’ childhoods. I’m always waiting for her to be “paid back” for all her crap and that day just ain’t coming soon enough. Any advice would great from anyone….. V.S.D (very sad dad)

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